First debate 09.26.16

[RBP]

Post your thoughts.

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[DemonGeminiX]

I don't care what either of them say. I absolutely refuse to vote for that whore of a cunt. By elimination, and because the other 2 are complete and utter jokes, he's getting my vote.

[deebakes]

doesn't matter who i vote for, minnesota goes to democrats by default, so hillary wins here :shrug:

[DemonGeminiX]

Vote anyway. It's your voice, Dee. And people might surprise you.

[deebakes]

i have yet to vote for a winning candidate in my life :lol:




i don't know how many times i have voted for nader :rofl:

[deebakes]

i can't tell if turd sandwich or giant douche is winning to this point :shrug:

[DemonGeminiX]

I am genuinely surprised no one has taken a shot at her yet.

[Godfather]

"This was an incredibly predictable debate. I don't think you could find any two less likeable Americans. Trump was a buffoon and outwardly racist at times. Clinton was rehearsed and had no charisma "

CBC post-debate coverage is on point :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

:-k

How was he racist?

[RBP]

Winner: Nobody.

Loser: The American People.

Complete shit show, they were both morons.

[redred]

so whats the score with his tax returns then ? would anyone care if he uses loads of loop holes to get away with paying the right amount or that he wasn't giving away the amounts he says he does to charities

by the looks of it someone could find a load of kiddie porn on his phone and people would still vote for trump just because he isn't her

[RBP]

The "pay your fair share" comment is bullshit. If he legally used the tax code, so what? Hillary made $25 million on speaking fees. If she is so convinced that she didn't pay enough, she should write a check along with all her Hollywood liberal types. Does anyone really believe that all the liberal rich people are rejecting accountants who can save them money because they think they wouldn't be paying their fare share? Please. :lol:

The federal government took in RECORD HIGH TAX RECEIPTS under Obama and still doubled the debt. Excuse me? We don't have a taxation problem, we have a SPENDING PROBLEM.

Soaking the rich will solve nothing and that argument annoys the fuck out of me because it's pure class welfare and nothing else. There's not enough there to make a difference. Not to mention that the top 20% play almost 70% of ALL federal taxes as it is. They are already footing the bill. What should that number be, Hillary?

http://i.imgur.com/5fFHG6b.png

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/49440

Trump should be able to eat her lunch but he can't because he's a dolt.

[lost in melb.]

Trump should be able to eat her lunch but he can't because he's a dolt.


Yes. He should have smashed her. But then he'd have to do some work and prepare for the debate and all that...

[PorkChopSandwiches]

:-k

How was he racist?
:idk:


so whats the score with his tax returns then ? would anyone care if he uses loads of loop holes to get away with paying the right amount or that he wasn't giving away the amounts he says he does to charities

by the looks of it someone could find a load of kiddie porn on his phone and people would still vote for trump just because he isn't her

Loopholes are just that, you can't be mad at someone for using them, you need to be mad at the people that put them there and get them closed. To not use them would be foolish.

kiddie porn is a leap, but Hillary supporters don't care about all the deaths she has caused...they will still vote for her.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

The wife and I ate an edible about an hour before, it made for a very entertaining show :lol:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPTnV3EYwGw

[Teh One Who Knocks]

By Salena Zito - New York Post


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YOUNGSTOWN, Pa. — Ken Reed sat down at the main bar of the Tin Lizzy tavern with two things in mind: to dig into the tavern’s oversize cheese steak, and watch the presidential debate.

“I am hungry and undecided, in that order,” he said, digging into the savory dish in a bar that dates back to 1746.

Kady Letoksy, a paralegal by day, a waitress and bartender at night at the Tin Lizzy, sat beside him. At 28, she has never voted before, and she is now thinking it might be a good idea to start.

Letosky entered the evening undecided in a town that is heavily Democratic in registration. Her sister and father are on opposite sides of the political aisle. Donald “Trump had the upper hand this evening,” she said, citing his command of the back-and-forth between him and Hillary Clinton.

Reed, 35, is a registered Democrat and small businessman. “By the end of the debate, Clinton never said a thing to persuade me that she had anything to offer me or my family or my community,” he said, sitting at the same bar that has boasted local icons as regulars, such as the late Fred Rogers, and Arnold Palmer, who had his own stash of PM Whiskey hidden behind newer bottles of whiskey for his regular visits.

“Have to say Trump had the edge this evening, he came out swinging but also talked about specifics on jobs and the economy,” Reed said.

Reed said Clinton came across as either smug or as though she was reading her résumé, adding there was nothing on her résumé that touched on his life. “I am a small businessman, a farmer, come from a long line of farmers and coal miners. The policies she talked about tonight ultimately either hurt me or ignore me,” he said.

How apropos for this presidential election that these patrons chose the Tin Lizzy — a 270-year-old tavern in this small Westmoreland County town — as the place to watch the historic debate between Clinton and Trump.

The tavern’s namesake is the Model T, the first affordable automobile available to America’s working class, which eventually became slang for something quite different.

If someone said you were “going the way of the Tin Lizzy,” it meant your job or industry was in decline, no longer useful.

That is how today’s cosmopolitan and political classes view Main Street voters — as people whose values, traditions, skills, jobs and lives are being replaced by something new.

“I’ve been a Democrat all of my life, but when Clinton mentions her husband and the jobs he brought to the country in the ’90s, it’s not a fair assessment. She is no moderate Democrat the way he was, her policies would not bring back jobs,” said Nathan Nemick.

It burns Nemick when Clinton references her husband, like she did in the debate on trade and jobs. “She is nothing like him,” he said of the Democrat he admired in his youth.

Pennsylvania is a high-stakes state for both candidates, but particularly Clinton, and Westmoreland is a high-stakes county, particularly for Trump.

She needs to win this state, and he needs not just to win this county but to do so by 2,000 more votes than Mitt Romney did in 2012.

Westmoreland is one of about 10 formerly or traditionally Democrat-blue counties across the state where Trump must drive up a higher-than-normal turnout, or even flip them to Republican red, in order to offset an anticipated high turnout for Clinton in Philadelphia.

The other counties are Cambria, Greene, Fayette and Washington in the southwest corner of the state and Bucks, Lackawanna, Lancaster, Luzerne and York in the east.

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Between 1960 and 2000, Westmoreland County Democrats handily won presidential races with one exception: Ronald Reagan’s 1980 victory.

By 1984, voters here were back to their Democratic allegiances, giving their votes to Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis and Bill Clinton.

When Al Gore turned the party toward its progressive wing in 2000, however, he left behind Westmoreland County Democrats.

Democrats here are more traditional in their values — they are pro-gun, pro-life, pro-coal, something today’s Democratic Party has left no room for.

Trump probably connects better with such voters than did Romney in 2012, or John McCain in 2008; a large part of the reason is his outside-the-box style. Yet for him to win the state, such voters need to turn out in force — here and elsewhere — to offset Philly’s overwhelming numbers.

Before the debate, the latest CNN poll showed a virtual tie in the Keystone State.

Outside the bar, a lone sign lit up the quiet corner of the old Lincoln Highway: “RIP Mr. Palmer, Forever in our hearts,” honoring Arnold Palmer, who died Sunday.

“He was just a regular guy, just a working-class guy at heart like everyone else around here,” said Jim Sciabica, the unofficial bar manager and small businessman who kept “Mr. Palmer’s” PM Whiskey tucked in a corner away from patrons and workers.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Those are the ones he needs

[Muddy]

The ol' bird was definitely better prepared and more composed last night..

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Can't argue that

[Teh One Who Knocks]

The ol' bird was definitely better prepared and more composed last night..

That's not really unexpected, she's a career politician.

[Muddy]

That's not really unexpected, she's a career politician.

I was sure she was going to fall into a coughing spell or do something else crazy... I watched every minute waiting.. :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

There's still 2 more debates, there's always hope :tup:

[redred]

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[deebakes]

#truth

[Pony]

I haven't watched it yet. I have seen a few things today that I need to look further into. One was a non-mainstream news source claiming they posted a month ago that a former Clinton campaign worker told them that the debate was fixed. She got the questions in advance and also didn't get called out on any of her lies like Trump did. The moderator was soft on her.

Second thing was a bunch of claims and photos of her apparently wearing an earpiece and getting fed answers to questions.

[Noilly Pratt]

Here you go...
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[deebakes]

:fbd: