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Teh One Who Knocks
11-15-2016, 08:33 PM
By John Frank and Brian Eason - The Denver Post


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A Colorado representative to the Electoral College is helping lead a movement to block Donald Trump from taking the White House.

Micheal Baca, a Denver Democrat and member of the state’s Electoral College delegation, is working to convince Republican electors in other states to support a different candidate.

And he has the blessing of Colorado Democratic Party Chairman Rick Palacio.

“I think the majority of the voters in this country are very upset at the outcome of this election,” Palacio said in an interview. “The electoral college didn’t do a majority of the American people a favor in this election and I think there are many who are trying to figure out ways to prevent Trump from taking office. I applaud Micheal for doing his part.”

Baca and colleague Bret Chiafolo, a Washington state elector, created what they call “Moral Electors.” If 37 Republican electors vote against Trump, it would prevent the Republican from winning the presidency and could put the question to the House of Representatives.

The House has been forced to decide the presidency in the past, but never in this manner. When the Electoral College is deadlocked, the House is supposed to choose from among the top three electoral vote-getters. But since no third-party candidate won a state, only Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton stand to receive electoral votes.

So for the election to be decided in the House, electors would have to write in a third candidate: say, Libertarian Gary Johnson or Evan McMullin, the conservative from Utah. They could even write in someone who wasn’t running, such as Ohio Gov. John Kasich or former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

Though he’s a Democrat, Baca says he’s willing to support a Republican candidate to block Trump. He then hopes the Republican president would pick a Democratic vice president.

“This is not about Hillary,” he said. “This is about trying to stop Donald Trump.”

To win the presidency, a candidate needs 270 out of 538 available Electoral College votes, which are divvied up among the states and Washington, D.C., based on population. But the electoral votes aren’t automatically given to a state’s winning candidate. Electors have to cast a vote at their state’s meeting of electors, which will occur on Dec. 19.

Procedures for appointing an elector vary from state to state, but it’s typically done at the party convention or by a party committee.

There’s no federal law requiring electors to vote for the party that nominated them, but 29 states and Washington, D.C., have laws that attempt to force presidential electors to vote with the will of their state’s voters, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Some states impose fines. Others, like Colorado, don’t allow for so-called “faithless electors.” If an elector does not cast a vote for the right candidate, they are removed and replaced with a new elector, according to the Colorado Secretary of State’s Office. So Baca is required under Colorado law to cast his vote for Clinton because she won the state’s nine electoral votes.

Baca says he’s aware that the chances of success in blocking Trump are slim. “This is a longshot, it’s a pipe dream,” he said.

Nationwide, no elector has crossed party lines since 1972, when a Republican elector cast a ballot for the Libertarian ticket, according to the NCSL. More recently in 2008, a Minnesota elector nominated by the Democratic Party voted for John Edwards, the running mate of Democrat John Kerry.

The 24-year-old is a graduate student at Northern Arizona University is a Marine Corps veteran who now drives for the ride-sharing services, Lyft and Uber.

Even before this latest effort, Baca considered voting against Clinton when the Electoral College meets Dec. 19. He is a supporter of Bernie Sanders.

Baca, who became involved in politics for the first time this campaign, believes the popular vote should control who wins the White House. He hopes this effort raises awareness of the problems with the Electoral College. And he’s upset about Trump’s position on climate change.

“We cannot just rip up the Paris climate accord. We cannot have a climate denialist” in the White House, he said.

If electors vote with their states, Trump would secure as many 306 electoral votes. He has enough states for 290 today, and is leading in Michigan, which has not made its results official and has 16 electoral votes.

Muddy
11-15-2016, 08:37 PM
"Stop Donald Trump" from what?? Cutting off your fucking stipends??

Teh One Who Knocks
11-15-2016, 08:38 PM
“I think the majority of the voters in this country are very upset at the outcome of this election,” Palacio said in an interview.

I don't know if he noticed, but the vote is pretty close to even, less than 1% separates both candidates, so that's not THE MAJORITY :roll:

Loser
11-15-2016, 11:24 PM
Doesn't matter. Even if the electors vote for hillary, it has to pass the house, which is republican controlled. If they vote differently then the electors, the acting speaker of the house calls it. Which is paul ryan.