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DemonGeminiX
11-22-2016, 06:04 AM
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Supporters of a plan for California to secede from the union took their first formal step Monday morning, submitting a proposed ballot measure to the state attorney general's office in the hopes of a statewide vote as soon as 2018.

Marcus Ruiz Evans, the vice president and co-founder of Yes California, said his group had been planning to wait for a later election, but the presidential election of Donald Trump sped up the timeline.

"We're doing it now because of all of the overwhelming attention," Evans said.

The Yes California group has been around for more than two years, Evans said. It is based around California taxpayers paying more money to the federal government than the state receives in spending, that Californians are culturally different from the rest of the country, and that national media and organizations routinely criticize Californians for being out of step with the rest of the U.S.

The attorney general's office will give the ballot measure a title and summary, and Evans said he hopes to begin collecting signatures to get it on the ballot in the spring. Qualifying ballot measures typically requires significant resources to pay signature gatherers, and Yes California doesn't have major financial backing. But Evans said 13,000 people have volunteered to collect signatures.

"This is real," Evans said. "We treat it seriously."

Various groups have made noise about California forming its own country in the wake of Trump's election this month, most prominently Silicon Valley financier Shervin Pishevar. But similar proposals have dotted the state's political landscape for years. Yes California has tried and failed previously, and Silicon Valley venture capitalist Tim Draper was not able to get a proposal to split California into six states onto the 2016 ballot.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/secessionists-formally-launch-quest-for-californias-independence/ar-AAkzXSn?li=BBnbcA1

Loser
11-22-2016, 07:29 AM
Please, for the love of god do it. Please release a huge fucking tax burden on the rest of the US. :beg:

Teh One Who Knocks
11-22-2016, 11:26 AM
These are the same people that made fun of Texans that talked about seceding from the Union :roll:

Pony
11-22-2016, 12:42 PM
Build a wall!

RBP
11-22-2016, 12:46 PM
:bye:

Hugh_Janus
11-22-2016, 06:31 PM
porky's gunna need a passport

PorkChopSandwiches
11-22-2016, 06:33 PM
pretty much impossible to succeed. you need 3/4 of the states and 2/3 of congress to agree. If it could be done Texas would have already done it

DemonGeminiX
11-22-2016, 06:38 PM
It's not possible because it's illegal. US statehood is like the mafia. Once you're in, you can never get out.

PorkChopSandwiches
11-22-2016, 06:41 PM
It would be legal with the votes a mentioned to amend the constitution in order to allow it :lol:

DemonGeminiX
11-22-2016, 06:44 PM
They'd never do it.

PorkChopSandwiches
11-22-2016, 06:49 PM
agreed

PorkChopSandwiches
11-22-2016, 06:49 PM
But, try to explain that to these snowflakes who's feelings are hurt that a (D) didnt win the election

Hugh_Janus
11-22-2016, 06:51 PM
but trump is a dick :-k

DemonGeminiX
11-22-2016, 06:51 PM
But, try to explain that to these snowflakes who's feelings are hurt that a (D) didnt win the election

You need to whack them in the head a few times first before they'd understand. They need the sense knocked back into them.

PorkChopSandwiches
11-22-2016, 06:54 PM
I dont think schools even teach civics or the constitution anymore. I truly think they dont understand how the system works.

DemonGeminiX
11-22-2016, 06:57 PM
That's ridiculous. Education needs to be overhauled.

Hugh_Janus
11-22-2016, 06:58 PM
just how they want it:fbd:

PorkChopSandwiches
11-22-2016, 07:00 PM
just how they want it:fbd:

You joke, but its true

RBP
11-22-2016, 07:36 PM
but trump is a dick :-k

If being a dick was a disqualifying factor, most US Presidents and UK PM's would have never served.

RBP
11-22-2016, 07:38 PM
You joke, but its true

Gee, if only there was a readily available interconnected resource to gain knowledge. I know this is a pipe dream, but can you imagine if everyone held such a device in the palm of their hand?!?

Teh One Who Knocks
11-22-2016, 07:41 PM
Gee, if only there was a readily available interconnected resource to gain knowledge. I know this is a pipe dream, but can you imagine if everyone held such a device in the palm of their hand?!?

http://i.imgur.com/BaMtQKg.jpg

:-k

PorkChopSandwiches
11-22-2016, 07:43 PM
Gee, if only there was a readily available interconnected resource to gain knowledge. I know this is a pipe dream, but can you imagine if everyone held such a device in the palm of their hand?!?

They are on the internet, that's the problem. That is where all this BS started :lol: