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redred
12-17-2016, 04:28 PM
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Nine people have died in Vancouver in the past 24 hours from an overdose of the painkiller fentanyl opioid, officials say.
Mayor Gregor Robertson said it was "desperate times" for the Canadian city, adding that more deaths were expected.
"It's hard to see any silver lining right now when we haven't hit rock bottom," Mr Robertson said.
Drug abuse in Canada claimed the lives of 2,000 people in 2015.
The government has invested tens of millions of dollars in public health emergency responses in recent years, but Mr Robertson said that more was needed.
Police Chief Adam Palmer also called for more help for the city's addicts. "Can you imagine nine people dying from another cause in one day in our city?" he said.
Vancouver has seen an average of 15 drug overdoses a month, with dozens more deaths still under investigation, Mr Palmer said.
The city's coroner said that morgues had reached capacity.
Most of the deaths occurred in the Downtown Eastside neighbourhood, where drugs can be easily bought, Mr Palmer said.
Two milligrams of pure fentanyl, the size of about four grains of salt, is enough to kill an average adult.
In April, the US singer Prince died of an accidental overdose of the dangerously powerful synthetic drug.


What is fentanyl?
Fentanyl is an extremely strong painkiller, prescribed for severe chronic pain, or breakthrough pain which doesn't respond to regular painkillers.
It is an opioid painkiller which means it works by mimicking the body's natural painkillers, called endorphins, which block pain messages to the brain.
It can cause dangerous side effects, including severe breathing problems.
The risk of harm is higher if the wrong dose or strength is used.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38351958

deebakes
12-17-2016, 04:50 PM
see red? drugs are bad, mmmkay? :shock:

redred
12-17-2016, 05:06 PM
But aren't these over the counter ones? They're the ones you have to watch out for

RBP
12-17-2016, 05:58 PM
Deaths increase sales. Seriously. When they see an overdose, they know the good stuff is out there.

deebakes
12-17-2016, 06:41 PM
But aren't these over the counter ones? They're the ones you have to watch out for

both over and under the counter are bad :hand:

redred
12-18-2016, 07:46 AM
What about round a dark alley type?

Muddy
12-18-2016, 11:55 AM
I wonder why state governments are struggling to find drugs to euthanize criminals on death row? Just hit the damned with this stuff.

DemonGeminiX
12-18-2016, 02:38 PM
A bullet would be cheaper. Just saying.

Godfather
12-18-2016, 06:00 PM
Hey wanna hear something great about this?! They're going to tackle the problem with the money from... waitforit... homeowners! My property taxes are going up 0.5% by order of city council to tackle this crisis! But I'm sure they'll take that tax right back off after this is out of the news right :roll:

Why not tax booze, or weed or cigarettes or some other vice to tackle the issue of drug addicts :lol: My property taxes are already outrageous. Being a homeowner and having your taxes increase to pay for this shit is pretty irritating.

RBP
12-18-2016, 06:38 PM
Hey wanna hear something great about this?! They're going to tackle the problem with the money from... waitforit... homeowners! My property taxes are going up 0.5% by order of city council to tackle this crisis! But I'm sure they'll take that tax right back off after this is out of the news right :roll:

Why not tax booze, or weed or cigarettes or some other vice to tackle the issue of drug addicts :lol: My property taxes are already outrageous. Being a homeowner and having your taxes increase to pay for this shit is pretty irritating.

But would you have been vocal about the dying if it wasn't an overt tax?

Godfather
12-18-2016, 07:53 PM
Vocal in what regard?.. I mean I have perspective on it, my wife's a doctor and close friend is a paramedic so I have a pretty good understanding of what's going on... but my heart isn't bleeding over it, if that's what you mean.

redred
12-18-2016, 08:09 PM
These folk will get a fix over or under the counter

RBP
12-19-2016, 05:20 AM
Vocal in what regard?.. I mean I have perspective on it, my wife's a doctor and close friend is a paramedic so I have a pretty good understanding of what's going on... but my heart isn't bleeding over it, if that's what you mean.

I am wondering if the overt gesture to hit you in the pocket book is a PR move. It generates more discussion and, therefore, more action.

Noilly Pratt
12-19-2016, 04:38 PM
I am wondering if the overt gesture to hit you in the pocket book is a PR move. It generates more discussion and, therefore, more action.

You might be right...this has been a problem before fentanyl. My nephew was a firefighter in the downtown East Side and he said that a majority of their time they revived OD victims most nights. This was over 15 years ago.

Godfather
12-22-2016, 07:42 PM
The thing about this drug is it's not typically being laced into fun party drugs, it's not an upper so nobody who smokes weed, coke, MDMA or other party drugs has a high risk of it if they're casual drug users.

Dealers cut crack cocaine with it, it's cheap and works well. Unfortunately they kill people with it too, sometimes on purpose to raise the street cred of how good their drugs are.

I guess my point is that the people getting killed by this aren't college party drug users hanging with friends, they're mostly pretty hard core. Stirring the public sympathy is a lot harder. Despite the 250+ deaths here, I've yet to see a single story in the papers about a nice young kid taken too soon by this. If there was a story about fentanyl to pull at our heart strings I'm sure we'd here it... but there just aren't, save for maybe the kids they left behind.

RBP
12-23-2016, 01:13 AM
The thing about this drug is it's not typically being laced into fun party drugs, it's not an upper so nobody who smokes weed, coke, MDMA or other party drugs has a high risk of it if they're casual drug users.

Dealers cut crack cocaine with it, it's cheap and works well. Unfortunately they kill people with it too, sometimes on purpose to raise the street cred of how good their drugs are.

I guess my point is that the people getting killed by this aren't college party drug users hanging with friends, they're mostly pretty hard core. Stirring the public sympathy is a lot harder. Despite the 250+ deaths here, I've yet to see a single story in the papers about a nice young kid taken too soon by this. If there was a story about fentanyl to pull at our heart strings I'm sure we'd here it... but there just aren't, save for maybe the kids they left behind.

I need a clarification of your point, because it sounds like you're saying if rich kids die, you'd understand the taxes. I am not believing that's what you mean.