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Teh One Who Knocks
01-19-2017, 11:55 AM
By Edmund DeMarche - FOX News


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A New York lawyer appealed to President Obama Wednesday in an opinion piece to pardon former-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and others who may be “potential targets” of an investigation into the use of her private email server.

Robert Begleiter, a partner at Constantine Cannon LLP and former assistant U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of New York, wrote in The Daily News that the Constitution permits a president to pardon someone who has not been charged with a crime.

President-elect Donald Trump has said he has no intention of investigating Clinton, despite the familiar chant by supporters at his primary rallies, “Lock her up.” He even refered to her as “Crooked Hillary.”

“I don’t want to hurt the Clintons, I really don’t,” Trump told editors at The New York Times shortly after the election. “She went through a lot and suffered greatly in many different ways, and I’m not looking to hurt them at all. The campaign was vicious.”

Begleiter wrote that he wishes Trump well as president, but said it would be a gamble in the event Clinton ever criticized Trump during his presidency. He called it “sideways” to believe that a person who accepted a pardon is admitting guilt.

He wrote that a pardon for Clinton could, in the words of Alexander Hamilton, “restore tranquility to the commonwealth”

John Crudele, a financial columnist with The New York Post, wrote that Obama is the most forgiving president in U.S. history, and commuted the sentences of 1,000. He theorized that Obama likely does not personally like Clinton very much and the email scandal put him in an “embarrassing” situation.

“But the best reason for not giving a pardon is simple: Obama doesn’t really know what kind of trouble Hillary might be in. And she would have to admit to things she might not be ready to reveal to get completely out of trouble,” he wrote.

Goofy
01-19-2017, 01:05 PM
Why pardon someone who's done nothing wrong? :-k :shifty:

Loser
01-19-2017, 02:05 PM
Yes, Pardon her, Remove her ability to EVER run for public office again by admiting she was guilty ;)

deebakes
01-20-2017, 02:27 AM
:puke:

The Monk
01-20-2017, 03:29 AM
As 'Goofy' says.... You need to be convicted of something to warrant a pardon.

DemonGeminiX
01-20-2017, 03:39 AM
No you don't. Obama could issue her a blanket pardon for "any misdeed she may have or may not have committed during her time as Secretary of State", and no one would ever be able to convict her in the future of any crime she more than likely committed. She'd be completely protected from any possible prosecution that may or may not come down the line. However, as Loser has pointed out, doing so would be a very damning admission of guilt, and if she had any desire of returning to "public service", that sort of blanket pardon would utterly and absolutely destroy her chances of ever having a career in politics ever again. It's a scarlet letter of sorts, and the biggest "fuck you" that a President could issue to another politician that the President doesn't like but doesn't want to send to jail for whatever reason.

DemonGeminiX
01-20-2017, 06:24 PM
Well.... he can't now. :dance:

The Monk
01-21-2017, 05:31 AM
No you don't. Obama could issue her a blanket pardon for "any misdeed she may have or may not have committed during her time as Secretary of State", and no one would ever be able to convict her in the future of any crime she more than likely committed. She'd be completely protected from any possible prosecution that may or may not come down the line. However, as Loser has pointed out, doing so would be a very damning admission of guilt, and if she had any desire of returning to "public service", that sort of blanket pardon would utterly and absolutely destroy her chances of ever having a career in politics ever again. It's a scarlet letter of sorts, and the biggest "fuck you" that a President could issue to another politician that the President doesn't like but doesn't want to send to jail for whatever reason.

What if it was unknown that a possible crime was deserving of the death penalty....?

RBP
01-21-2017, 07:25 AM
As 'Goofy' says.... You need to be convicted of something to warrant a pardon.

Why is it 'Goofy' - are you alleging that Goofy is actually an imposter? :shock:

DemonGeminiX
01-21-2017, 07:40 AM
What if it was unknown that a possible crime was deserving of the death penalty....?

If there was a crime alleged to have been committed that had the possibility of the death penalty attached, I don't think any sitting President would touch that with a 10-foot pole, to be honest... although, Obama commuted Manning's sentence of espionage which could have carried a death sentence, even though he wasn't sentenced to death. I don't remember if he pardoned the other dude that just walked off the base in Afghanistan to go to the Taliban. In my opinion, they both should have been tried for treason, which carries a death sentence.

DemonGeminiX
01-21-2017, 08:12 AM
Bergdahl. That's his name. And Obama didn't issue him a pardon. His general court-martial trial for desertion and misconduct before the enemy begins in February. He could get up to a life sentence. Trump's gone on record saying Bergdahl's a traitor and he won't issue a pardon for him.