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Teh One Who Knocks
07-07-2017, 02:25 PM
by Bridie Pearson-Jones - The Independent


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Hawaii has become the first US state to pass a bill to support universal basic income.

The bill, called HCR 89, means the Hawiian government will convene "a basic economic security working group", which many are touting as the first step towards a nationwide basic income programme.

Last month Chris Lee, a state representative for Hawaii wrote a piece on reddit to "introduce a conversation about our future". In the post he wrote:


Planning for the future isn't politically sexy and won't win anyone an election, if anything it tends to bring out opposition that doesn't want to see things change. But if we do it properly we will all be much better off for it in the long run.

Hawaii is quickly gaining a reputation of the most progressive state. In June, it became the most the first in the US to formally accept the provisions of the Paris Climate Agreement after President Donald Trump withdrew from it. It's a bit of a historic pattern for Hawaii, who were the first state to sign in the Equal Rights Amendment, and the first to legally mandate employer-sponsored healthcare in 1974.

Additionally, in 1970 it legalised abortions - two years before the rest of the US.

What is Universal Basic Income?

It means that every citizen will be granted a fixed income regardless of their socioeconmic status.It's regarded as much better than the current welfare programmes in the US, however, opponents argue it could encourage lower productivity and be difficult to fund.

Finland and Germany are currently piloting universal basic income schemes, and Canada are planning on trailing one.

Research indicates that typically when given an universal basic income, people use it to pay for necessities like home repairs rather than luxuries like holidays.

Speaking to Business Insider, Chris Lee, the State Representative who introduced the bill said:


I think it's pretty clear that we have the ability to reduce costs for everyone and keep people out of poverty and improve quality of life more cheaply than it would be to let our existing social safety net be overwhelmed by the changes we're seeing in our economy.

Pursuing hard work enough to make a decent living no longer applies in an economy in which automation and innovation have taken that away from so many people.

Lee added:


We're on a clock. We're feeling it right now, and surely we'll be feeling it significantly more so in the future.

I think we have a long history of taking action because it benefits everybody here.

And I hope we have an opportunity to try out some of these new options that have never been tried before, because the benefits could be enormous.

The measure will allow researchers to compare data on different forms of wealth distribution, and possibly fuel further study.

RBP
07-07-2017, 02:32 PM
You mean wealth RE-distribution.

If it turns out that simply cutting checks and eliminating the welfare state government behemoth is cost neutral or better, I'm all for it.

Teh One Who Knocks
07-07-2017, 02:38 PM
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Teh One Who Knocks
07-07-2017, 02:41 PM
By Malia Zimmerman - Watchdog.org


HONOLULU — In Hawaii, it pays not to work.

A new report by Cato Institute, which examines the state-by-state value of welfare for a mother of two, said benefits in Hawaii average $49,175 — tops in the nation.

Michael Tanner, co-author of the Cato study, said that since welfare isn’t taxed, a person would have to earn $60,590 in Hawaii to take home the same $49,175 a person on welfare would.

“To be clear: There is no evidence that people on welfare are lazy. Indeed, surveys of them consistently show their desire for a job. But they’re also not stupid. If you pay them more not to work than they can earn by working, many will choose not to work,” Tanner said in a summary of his report.

Senate Minority Leader Sam Slom, a member of the Senate Human Services and Ways and Means committees, said the study’s results are “not surprising” to those who have followed the geometric increases in total welfare benefits and expenditures.

“I said in a public hearing several years ago that within a few years, our human services welfare costs would surpass public education in Hawaii. This came to pass late in 2012,” Slom said. “It is a shame that Hawaii has such huge governmental costs and tax burden, which in turn creates more of a welfare class and the growing inability of a middle class to sustain themselves, let alone to privately assist the less fortunate. We have been promised hope and change in this state. There is no change, only hope.”

Suzie Chun Oakland, the chair of the Senate Human Services Committee, was traveling and could not be reached for comment. The vice chair of the committee, Josh Green, did not return an email inquiry about the study.

The state Department of Human Services refused Watchdog’s request to provide information on how much the state spends on welfare and the number of welfare recipients. The director, Pat McManaman, also refused comment on the Cato study, saying she hasn’t had time to review it.

Kalbert Young, director of the state Department of Budget and Finance, said that over the next two fiscal years Hawaii is appropriating $2.75 billion and $2.83 billion —or about 20 percent of the state general fund budget — for operating expenses of “social services,” which includes funding for child protective services, community youth programs, adult community care services, general assistance payments, public housing, health care payments such as Medicaid and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Slightly more than half of those funds come from Washington, D.C.

Tanner said there are 126 separate welfare programs funded by the federal government, 72 of which provide either cash or in-kind benefits to individuals. That’s on top of state and local program to help those with lower incomes.

“Of course, no individual or family gets benefits from all 72 programs, but many do get aid from a number of them at any point in time,” Tanner said.

While it may make sense for people to accept welfare in the short term, Tanner said it may actually hurt them over the long term.

“One of the most important steps toward avoiding or getting out of poverty is a job. Only 2.6 percent of full-time workers are poor, versus 23.9 percent of adults who don’t work. And, while many anti-poverty activists decry low-wage jobs, even starting at a minimum-wage job can be a springboard out of poverty. Thus, by providing such generous welfare payments, we may actually not be helping recipients,” Tanner said.

Tanner suggests governments can do more.

“If Congress and state legislatures are serious about reducing welfare dependence and rewarding work, they should consider strengthening work requirements in welfare programs, removing exemptions and narrowing the definition of work,” Tanner said.

RBP
07-07-2017, 03:25 PM
It's insane. But what's the cost of that welfare apparatus? if you set the number at 35,000 and eliminated all agencies, what happens to total cost? I don't know that answer.

Muddy
07-07-2017, 03:36 PM
Do what you want.. Without Federal funding.