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Teh One Who Knocks
07-26-2017, 03:02 PM
By Barnini Chakraborty, FOX News and The Associated Press


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President Trump tweeted Wednesday that the U.S. government will not allow transgender people “to serve in any capacity in the U.S. military.”

In a series of tweets, he wrote:

"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow...Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military. Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming..victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail. Thank you."

The president’s tweets came only a few weeks after Defense Secretary James Mattis said he would give military chiefs another six months to conduct a review to determine if allowing transgender individuals to enlist in the armed services will affect the “readiness or lethality” of the force. The deadline for that review was Dec. 1, 2017.

“This is worse than don’t ask don’t tell, this is don’t serve, don’t serve,” The National Center for Transgender Equality said in a written statement. “This is an appalling attack on our service members; it is about bigotry rather than military readiness, reason or science. It is indefensible and cannot stand.”

The Family Research Council praised Trump’s action.

“I applaud President Trump for keeping his promise to return to military priorities – and not continue the social experimentation of the Obama era that has crippled our nation’s military,” FRC President Tony Perkins said in a statement. “The military can now focus its efforts on preparing to fight and win wars rather than being used to advance the Obama social agenda.”

During his confirmation hearing in January, Mattis was asked whether he believed that allowing LGBT Americans to serve in the military or women in combat would undermine the military’s lethality.

“Frankly, senator, I’ve never cared much about two consenting adults and who they go to bed with,” Mattis testified.

The Pentagon has refused to release any data on the number of transgender troops currently serving. A RAND study found that there are between 2,500 and 7,000 transgender service members in the active-duty military, and another 1,500 to 4,000 in the reserves.

Transgender service members have been able to serve openly in the military since last year, when former Defense Secretary Ash Carter ended the ban. Since Oct. 1, transgender troops have been able to receive medical care and start formally changing their gender identifications in the Pentagon's personnel system.

But Carter also gave the services until July 1 to develop policies to allow people already identifying as transgender to newly join the military, if they meet physical, medical and other standards, and have been stable in their identified genders for 18 months. Military chiefs recently announced a delay on allowing transgender people from enlisting.

Key concerns include whether currently enlisted troops have had medical or other issues that cause delays or problems with their ability to deploy or meet physical or other standards for their jobs. Military leaders also wanted to review how transgender troops are treated, if they're discriminated against or if they have had disciplinary problems, the officials said. They were not authorized to discuss internal deliberations publicly, so spoke on condition of anonymity.

RBP
07-26-2017, 03:24 PM
It sure seems like he creates social justice diversions on purpose.

PorkChopSandwiches
07-26-2017, 03:41 PM
It sounds kinda like he doesnt want taxpayers on the hook for sex changes and hormone therapy ....but IDK

Muddy
07-26-2017, 04:51 PM
I understand his message.

“Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail,”

But boy is he going to bring the heat with this one.

PorkChopSandwiches
07-26-2017, 04:59 PM
It will, but he doesn't seem to mind taking heat for what he thinks is right. Of course this policy he is changing hasn't even been in effect for a year I believe

redred
07-26-2017, 05:00 PM
surly anyone willing to fight for their country is all good isn't it ?

Muddy
07-26-2017, 05:03 PM
I would think 'dont ask, dont tell' was a good policy.. You are in the military to defend the country.. You are not there to make a personal identity statement.

PorkChopSandwiches
07-26-2017, 05:10 PM
I would think 'dont ask, dont tell' was a good policy.. You are in the military to defend the country.. You are not there to make a personal identity statement.

That's exactly what it will be, this way they won't be required to pay for the "services" these people would demand. I have no problem letting anyone who wants to join the service join the service, I sure as hell wouldn't. Its just a safeguard

Teh One Who Knocks
07-26-2017, 05:13 PM
surly anyone willing to fight for their country is all good isn't it ?

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Muddy
07-26-2017, 05:18 PM
That's exactly what it will be, this way they won't be required to pay for the "services" these people would demand. I have no problem letting anyone who wants to join the service join the service, I sure as hell wouldn't. Its just a safeguard

Yeah, its a tough subject.. A lot of these people feel like they are trapped inside the wrong body. They want to help their country but they cant be who they are especially if they have transitioned into what their mind feels they are.. It's kind of tragic, really. Again, at the end of the day I don't think the military is the place to have to work all this out..

Muddy
07-26-2017, 05:18 PM
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That guys not transgender.. He's some kind of flaming queer..

PorkChopSandwiches
07-26-2017, 05:20 PM
Yeah, its a tough subject.. A lot of these people feel like they are trapped inside the wrong body. They want to help their country but they cant be who they are especially if they have transitioned into what their mind feels they are.. It's kind of tragic, really. Again, at the end of the day I don't think the military is the place to have to work all this out..

I agree

redred
07-26-2017, 05:45 PM
That guys not transgender.. He's some kind of flaming queer..

:lol: but a happy one

Muddy
07-26-2017, 05:58 PM
:lol: but a happy one

Definitely.. :lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
07-26-2017, 08:24 PM
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Griffin
08-01-2017, 12:58 AM
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RBP
08-04-2017, 04:34 AM
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lost in melb.
08-04-2017, 04:53 AM
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Maybe if they are transgender already, done and dusted...but not if they are undergoing the process (like any other medical procedure)

DemonGeminiX
08-04-2017, 10:24 AM
The only real problem I have is with the cost of reassignment surgeries and therapies. Personally, I don't think the taxpayers should be held responsible for any elective procedure or treatment, and that's exactly what reassignment surgery is, elective. But as far as serving their country, as long as they're not a detriment to the mission, and anybody could be a detriment to the mission, then so be it. Let them serve.

Hal-9000
08-04-2017, 08:30 PM
Saving Private Spivak