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Teh One Who Knocks
11-03-2017, 12:39 PM
By Beth Mole - ars technica


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CBD All-Natural Hemp Oil by That's Natural! is sold as a supplement but should be regulated as a drug, the FDA says.

The Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday publicly scolded and threatened companies claiming that marijuana-based products could treat or cure cancer.

In the harshly worded announcement, the agency suggested that the “deceptive marketing” was tantamount to “health fraud” and that the agency was “increasingly concerned at the proliferation of products claiming to treat or cure serious diseases like cancer.”

The FDA called out four companies in particular during the tongue-lashing. The agency alleges that they were making illegal and unproven health claims about products containing the marijuana component cannabidiol (CBD). The companies—Greenroads Health, Natural Alchemist, That’s Natural! Marketing and Consulting, and Stanley Brothers Social Enterprises LLC—collectively marketed more than 25 CBD-containing products as being able to reverse, prevent, and/or cure various types of cancers, according to the agency.

The FDA also released warning letters it had sent to the companies, listing their individual violations. Among them were claims on websites, online stores, and social media that a given product:


“Combats tumor and cancer cells”
“makes cancer cells commit ‘suicide’ without killing other cells”
“[has] anti-proliferative properties that inhibit cell division and growth in certain types of cancer, not allowing the tumor to grow”
“may be effective in treating tumors from cancer—including breast cancer”

In a statement, FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, said:


Substances that contain components of marijuana will be treated like any other products that make unproven claims to shrink cancer tumors. We don’t let companies market products that deliberately prey on sick people with baseless claims that their substance can shrink or cure cancer and we’re not going to look the other way on enforcing these principles when it comes to marijuana-containing products… There are a growing number of effective therapies for many cancers. When people are allowed to illegally market agents that deliver no established benefit they may steer patients away from products that have proven, anti-tumor effects that could extend lives.

Baked claims

A massive report released this year by the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine concluded that there is no or insufficient evidence linking cannabis use to cancer prevention. And there is no clinical evidence that marijuana—or its components—can treat cancers. (There are two FDA-approved cannabinoid drugs to treat nausea from chemotherapies, though.)

The companies were likely basing their health claims on a small number of animal and cell studies suggesting that CBD and other marijuana components may be able to damage or kill cancer cells. For example, a 2011 study suggested that CBD could inhibit breast cancer cell growth and reduce the size of lung cancer tumors in mice. As the National Cancer Institute notes, other rodent studies have found that CBD may work synergistically with chemotherapy drugs.

However, these findings are preliminary, far from being validated or clinically relevant. And mouse studies are notoriously bad at predicting the success of potential treatments in humans.

Beyond a complete lack of data showing the products work in humans, the FDA also notes that there is no data on proper dosages or how they may interact with other drugs.

“We recognize that there’s interest in developing therapies from marijuana and its components, but the safest way for this to occur is through the drug approval process—not through unsubstantiated claims made on a website,” Gottlieb said. “We support sound, scientifically-based research using components derived from marijuana, and we’ll continue to work with product developers who are interested in bringing safe, effective, and quality products to market.”

The companies have 15 days to address the FDA’s concerns. Failure to do so, the agency warned, “may result in legal action, including product seizure and injunction.”

Some of the companies told The New York Times that they would work with the agency to make sure they were in compliance—but some did so begrudgingly.

Tisha Casida, the chief executive of That’s Natural, which markets CBD All-Natural Hemp Oil, told the Times in an e-mail:


All free people have a right to experience health and wellness from naturally derived cannabinoids. We should not have to only take FDA-approved synthesized drugs.

deebakes
11-04-2017, 01:45 AM
:facepalm:

PorkChopSandwiches
11-07-2017, 06:23 PM
I feed CBDs to my dog that has throat cancer. Not sure if it works, but cant hurt.

deebakes
11-09-2017, 03:09 AM
:facepalm:

PorkChopSandwiches
11-09-2017, 05:46 PM
Why dont you test it Dee

Muddy
11-09-2017, 07:17 PM
Look at all that god damn weed..

Hal-9000
11-09-2017, 08:17 PM
My sister lives in BC, they have medical stuff there. Dad gets diagnosed with stage four lung cancer. Some nitwit out there tells her eating cannabis oil stops cancer growth.

We ask a very intelligent nurse practitioner - Are there any foods, drugs, vitamins our Dad can take to help with the cancer growth. She says the only thing proven to help are chemo and radiation treatments. Healthy diet and habits help everyone, but there is no magic formula when it comes to cancer.

Sister sends a bunch of cannabis oil pills to Dad, he tries some and can't get out of bed or wake up completely in the mornings. He stops..too many other things going on with his body at that point :(

uncle hal picks up the slack and eats 80 capsules because they stop some pain issues :)

PorkChopSandwiches
11-09-2017, 08:24 PM
The FDA is hard to trust IMO after watching Dallas Buyers Club. Just because they haven't approved something doesn't mean it doesn't work. Especially when you look at how powerful the Pharma industry is. There are quite a bit of stories of CBD working

Hal-9000
11-09-2017, 08:30 PM
I've read some of the stories.

Is it possible the people involved were already getting regular cancer treatments and were young enough to recover or their cancer level was less severe?

My Dad woke up one day and coughed up blood. Five hours later he had a stage four diagnosis after a CT scan. Big tumor on one side, cancer presenting in both lungs...possibly into his lymph nodes at that point (which is severe if that's the case and it was, we found out later after more tests).

Teh One Who Knocks
11-09-2017, 08:35 PM
The FDA is hard to trust IMO after watching Dallas Buyers Club. Just because they haven't approved something doesn't mean it doesn't work. Especially when you look at how powerful the Pharma industry is. There are quite a bit of stories of CBD working

:facepalm:

Do you honestly think that is some company or some individual discovered a cure for cancer that it would be squashed and hidden away by the global pharma cartel? Probably right there on the shelf next to the internal combustion motor that runs on water and the cold fusion reactor :shakehead:

:tinfoil:

PorkChopSandwiches
11-09-2017, 08:50 PM
No joke, of course I do. There is too much money in the treatment

Hal-9000
11-09-2017, 08:58 PM
I read about a mineral or type of substance people were taking because they believed it helped with cancer. Asked the same nurse practitioner and she recognized the name immediately. In a nutshell she had heard too many similar stories of people paying for wonder cures.

Up here we get free treatment start to finish no matter how much chemo, radiation, medication, rides to the hospital, appointments, imaging...are required.

She said when she hears about her patients paying for potential snake oil, she will attempt to contact the distributor to ask questions and challenge them. Not one of them has provided clinical evidence to support their product according to her.

PorkChopSandwiches
11-09-2017, 09:04 PM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22506672

deebakes
11-10-2017, 02:01 AM
Why dont you test it Dee

i actually am trying to get a project through my animal welfare committee that exposes the mice to 15% direct/85% second hand inhalation marijuana smoke, but the logistics are a nightmare. for cigarettes, there is a 'standardized' version that all researchers use. i am having trouble locating a source like that for weed :lol:

deebakes
11-10-2017, 02:05 AM
an important consideration - i think i have said it before here, but if the results from animal studies could be directly translated into people, we would have cured cancer and alzheimer's disease years ago :shrug: