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Teh One Who Knocks
02-23-2018, 11:52 AM
By Kathleen Joyce | Fox News


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A YouTube star who had claimed a vegan diet and spiritual lifestyle cured her of breast cancer died of the disease, her niece confirmed.

Liz Johnson said her aunt Mari Lopez died in December after the cancer recurred. The two women hosted a YouTube channel together titled “Liz & Mari.”

Johnson posted a video Sunday explaining her aunt stopped her vegan diet after her cancer returned. She attributed Lopez’s death to undergoing radiation, chemotherapy and eating meat again.

“My aunt passed away in December because her cancer came back,” Johnson posted on the YouTube channel. “My aunt was inconsistent in her diet and spiritual life ... I never pushed my aunt to do anything or stay away from doctors."

In the video, Johnson said Lopez asked her to take down videos of her speaking about a vegan lifestyle after she realized she would die from the disease, but she refused, KSDK reported. She believed the videos could help others.

In 2016, the two women uploaded a video titled, “Stage 4 cancer natural transformation.” In the video, Lopez shared how she cured herself of cancer through a vegan diet, juicing and a lot of praying. The video has more than 370,000 views.

In other videos, the two women shared recipes of “all natural remedies.”

But Johnson said she has never been "against doctors or medical advice." Lopez acted in accordance with her own beliefs, she said.

"She chose to do what she did and experienced healing, leading her to share her testimony to help others," Johnson said.


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In an interview with Babe, Johnson said her family pushed Lopez to seek chemotherapy. She also said she believed her aunt would still be alive today if she continued her vegan lifestyle.

"I think [the results] would have [been different], honestly," Johnson told Babe. "I really, truly think that they would have. That’s what really contributed to her change in the first place. Going backwards is not going to help anything."

Johnson said she plans to continue posting videos to the YouTube channel.

Goofy
02-23-2018, 01:10 PM
Idiots will believe anything i suppose

Teh One Who Knocks
02-23-2018, 01:15 PM
It cured her, her cancer is completely gone now :hand:

Muddy
02-23-2018, 01:37 PM
These people think big pharma has the cure locked up in a safe somewhere.

Teh One Who Knocks
02-23-2018, 01:39 PM
These people think big pharma has the cure locked up in a safe somewhere.

They do, locked away with cold fusion and car engines that run on water :nono:

:fbd:

Muddy
02-23-2018, 01:41 PM
Isnt it crazy though how Magic Johnson was cured from aids? :-k

Teh One Who Knocks
02-23-2018, 02:03 PM
It's because he's rich and famous and can pay for the secret cures :hand:

Muddy
02-23-2018, 02:16 PM
Well there it is...

Hal-9000
02-23-2018, 07:19 PM
Here's the thing and I'm sure Dee can correct me if I'm wrong. When you're fighting cancer it's always best to be in the best physical shape possible when getting treatments. If you're a heavy smoker with a serious diagnosis, you may think - Why quit? Because every bit of exercise, intelligent food choices, intelligent habit choices, and rest ...gives your body a better chance during the fight.

Every cancer diagnosis is unique as there are so many forms of cancer coupled with individual situations that arise. Maybe someone does start to feel better because of diet and their cancer stops growing for a period of time. As Dee may tell us, if the cancer does appear to go into remission it's highly unlikely eating vegetables was the catalyst for the remission.

Muddy
02-23-2018, 07:30 PM
Dee is not an M.D.

He did stay in a Holiday Inn Express one night though..

Hal-9000
02-23-2018, 07:48 PM
So Dee has no experience working with cancer and I shouldn't have brought up his name in association with subject?

my bad

Muddy
02-23-2018, 07:53 PM
So Dee has no experience working with cancer and I shouldn't have brought up his name in association with subject?

my bad

You can bring his name up if you want to but I don't think I'd go to a lab guy working with mice over a medical doctor for life advice in dealing with cancer unless it was for something like "Is battery acid considered a carcinogen if I drink it"?

Hal-9000
02-23-2018, 07:57 PM
Righto. I've never heard what his actual job is in the field. I thought knowing what works and what doesn't may be in his purview.

Muddy
02-23-2018, 08:17 PM
I think he's more a scientist / researcher. I don't think he gets to interact with any humans.. We tried that shit with Dr. Moreau and look what happened.

Hal-9000
02-23-2018, 08:20 PM
So he gets rats high and then injects them with Red Dye #5 and takes notes.

No wonder he's such a freak...

Muddy
02-23-2018, 08:23 PM
I think he's doing things to mice that are a crime against nature..

Muddy
02-23-2018, 08:27 PM
Here's a picture of Dee sitting at his desk reading this right now..

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Hal-9000
02-23-2018, 08:28 PM
I think he's doing things to mice that are a crime against nature..

His fleshlite has ears??? :shock:


omg it's moving :puke:

deebakes
02-24-2018, 02:53 AM
Dee is not an M.D.

He did stay in a Holiday Inn Express one night though..

you're right, i only have a masters degree in tumor biology from the mayo clinic :sad2:

deebakes
02-24-2018, 02:54 AM
and my phd is in biomedical sciences, whatever the fuck that means :idk:

Godfather
02-24-2018, 02:59 AM
My good friend and his wife are doctors. Their mom has breast cancer and is refusing actual treatment. She's instead doing cleanses and testing her urine PH. As my friend says, testing your urine PH is the biggest bunch of bullshit in the homeopathy world - your body's PH is one of the most stable parts of your body. If it's actually off you're fucked, and testing your urine has actually nothing to do with it.

It's really sad, he can hardly talk about it it's so frustrating for him. It seems like the wiser and stronger our scientific community gets, the more people feel this need to shun it. Can't wrap my head around it

deebakes
02-24-2018, 03:05 AM
wow, that is really sad. at least when both my parents had minor cancer related diagnoses, they were totally on board with my advice. they have both not had anything come back at least for 5+ years :tup:

deebakes
02-24-2018, 03:07 AM
and hal, you are right. if a person is in overall poor health, they will respond differently to a healthy person to treatments. you can think about it this way, if the persons body is close to the edge, minor stresses (i.e. chemo, radiation) will push them usually over to a point of no return :shrug:

deebakes
02-24-2018, 03:08 AM
I think he's doing things to mice that are a crime against nature..

our animal welfare committee doesn't think so :dance:

deebakes
02-24-2018, 03:13 AM
also, generally people like to talk about statistics for 'how long do i have to live if i get diagnosed with X?'. There is always a range and sometimes they will say 5-year-survival rates are like 20% for people with advanced stage pancreatic cancer for example. What that means is that 4 of 5 people will have died within 5 years, but 1 of 5 didn't. I am only one person, I account for 100% of my survival rate. Anything I can do health wise to push myself towards a better outcome, you are damn sure I will be doing it instead of giving up or trying something that lacks any science behind it :2cents:

Godfather
02-24-2018, 03:15 AM
These people think big pharma has the cure locked up in a safe somewhere.

Truly. They think Chemistry is a four letter word. All this info at their fingertips and some sick fucks who make shit up prey on them. Can you even imagine how much money has had to be spent refuting anti-vaxers in recent years? And it falls on deaf ears for a (hopefully) small but thick-skulled community. It's sickening.

Hal-9000
02-24-2018, 05:40 PM
you're right, i only have a masters degree in tumor biology from the mayo clinic :sad2:


and my phd is in biomedical sciences, whatever the fuck that means :idk:

I suspected you may have some knowledge on the subject :thumbsup:

Well done man. You don't look that smart so your secret remains safe with us. I feel like I should pay more respect to you now.....okay that passed, not gonna happen :lol:

deebakes
02-24-2018, 10:43 PM
:wank:

Muddy
02-24-2018, 11:34 PM
Listen Hal.. Deebakes is like the Josef Mengala of the rodent world..

deebakes
02-24-2018, 11:39 PM
remember some of the old school AS fansigns i did :rofl:

Muddy
02-25-2018, 01:42 AM
I do.. :lol: Didnt you use an Xray machine?

deebakes
02-25-2018, 02:46 AM
it was the early days of filters :lol: