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Teh One Who Knocks
03-09-2018, 12:12 PM
By Chris Ciaccia | Fox News


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SpaceX and Tesla chieftain Elon Musk has gone on a tweetstorm, tweeting to President Donald Trump about his recently announced tariffs on foreign imports of steel and aluminum.

Musk, who was a member of President Trump's advisory council but left in June 2017, asked the president whether the U.S. and China should have the same rules for cars, delving into international trade policy at a time when it has become a touchy subject for many domestic corporations.

"Do you think the US & China should have equal & fair rules for cars?" Musk wrote. "Meaning, same import duties, ownership constraints & other factors."
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Musk added that American companies that ship their cars to China pay a significantly larger import duty than Chinese cars that come to the U.S.
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"For example, an American car going to China pays 25% import duty, but a Chinese car coming to the US only pays 2.5%, a tenfold difference," Musk tweeted.

He also said that American companies that set up factories in China effectively have to have a joint-venture with Chinese counterparts, allowing them to own no more than 50 percent of the factory in China.
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"Also, no US auto company is allowed to own even 50% of their own factory in China, but there are five 100% China-owned EV [electric vehicle] auto companies in the US," Musk wrote.

He also noted that he is generally for free trade, but highlighted the fact the current regulations make it difficult. He likened it to "competing in an Olympic race wearing lead shoes."
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Musk, 46, concluded his tweetstorm by noting that he had raised the issue with the Obama administration, but nothing was ever resolved.
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"We raised this with the prior administration and nothing happened," Musk wrote. "Just want a fair outcome, ideally where tariffs/rules are equally moderate. Nothing more. Hope this does not seem unreasonable."

President Trump has come under fire from both Republicans and Democrats for his announcement on tariffs last week, which would see foreign-made steel imports be taxed at 25 percent and aluminum be taxed at 10 percent.

On Thursday, President Trump signed the order Thursday that imposes tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from all foreign countries, while carving out an exception for Canada and Mexico for now while North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) negotiations are under way, White House officials told Fox News.

The president, joined by steel and aluminum workers, signed the companion proclamation — one on steel and one on aluminum – that will institute a tariff of 25 percent on steel and 10 percent on aluminum imports. The tariffs will become effective in 15 days, with exclusions for Mexico and Canada taking effect “immediately,” officials said.

“A nation that does not protect prosperity at home cannot protect its interests abroad,” the president said. “When it comes time where our country can’t make aluminum and steel, you almost don’t have much of a country.”

Earlier this week, Trump hinted that he would sign controversial tariffs on imports of aluminum and steel Thursday, but also suggested flexibility for “real friends” abroad who treat the U.S. fairly.

Muddy
03-09-2018, 01:27 PM
I'm with Elon. And Trump.

deebakes
03-10-2018, 03:46 PM
is it weird to think something might actually get done? :?

Muddy
03-10-2018, 08:01 PM
is it weird to think something might actually get done? :?

It will be the first time in probably my life history where an American president actually does something that benefits the American people and not everyone else outside of our borders or the mega rich

deebakes
03-10-2018, 08:40 PM
and you've been around since roosevelt :shock:

Muddy
03-10-2018, 08:47 PM
Titty Bear..

Hikari Kisugi
03-11-2018, 10:27 AM
I'm with Elon. And Trump.


How many Chinese cars are build in China and sold in the US?
I doubt hitting them with a 25% trade tariff instead of the 2.5% they currently get is going to have any effect at all.
I think what Musky would really want, is China to drop its tariff on his cars going to China.

lost in melb.
03-11-2018, 11:19 AM
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Muddy
03-11-2018, 12:04 PM
How many Chinese cars are build in China and sold in the US?
I doubt hitting them with a 25% trade tariff instead of the 2.5% they currently get is going to have any effect at all.
I think what Musky would really want, is China to drop its tariff on his cars going to China.

Hes just wants a level playing field.

Hikari Kisugi
03-11-2018, 07:00 PM
It won't help him.
If you guys import taxed Chinese cars at 25% it won't help.
What he is hoping is that in the play offs for the steel tariff to drop a bit, China might do some dealing where they drop the tariff on cars.
Play one against the other.
Nothing to do with being fair in the field of cars, he has ( as any good business man would) seen an opportunity to bring to light something that affects his foreign business sales, and might stand a chance of getting a tariff shifted.

If he was really pushing it, he could even claim that electric vehicles should be tariffed at a different rate to normal, so the big fuel guzzling US motors still get his at 25% and his cars much less, very forward thinking, and oddly, China might even jump at this to be 'seen' to be doing their bit for the environment.
Like not taking back plastic waste for their own landfills from UK and the rest of Europe. Helps China get closer to their target figures, while slowing down European figure diddling. (No sure if that story was publicised state side or not)

Hugh_Janus
03-11-2018, 10:34 PM
oh hey, a business man blabbing on about something that would probably benefit him.... quelle surprise