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Teh One Who Knocks
04-02-2018, 11:37 AM
Scott Morefield, Reporter - The Daily Caller


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For the “first time in modern history,” London had more murders in February than New York City did, according to The Times.

London’s 15 killings were above New York City’s 14 murders for the month. And a similar trend appears to be developing as March’s final data rolls in, with London edging New York City by a margin of 22 to 21.

According to research from the University of California’s Eric Monkkonen, London’s murder rate has been half or significantly less than New York City’s for well over 200 years, until early 2018.

London’s gun laws are among the strictest in the nation, but a significant spike in knife crimes is the driving force behind this crime wave. Last year alone, 80 people were killed by stabbing, and this year’s pace of 29 so far is set to overtake that. Labour MP Sarah Jones called London’s knife crime wave an “epidemic.”

Metropolitan police commissioner Cressida Dick told BBC radio: “We have taken thousands and thousands of knives off the streets. We are doing stop and search in an intelligent way, and we are stopping and searching those people we know are prolific knife carriers.”

Although Labour Mayor Sadiq Khan recently reinstated “stop and search” techniques to combat the violent crime wave, procedures changed significantly after critics blasted the previous policy for the “national controversy and local tension” caused by “black, Asian and ethnic minority people” being disproportionately searched, according to the Independent.

The policy change has reportedly been linked to London’s recent increase in violent crime:


At a conference for Chief Constables and Police and Crime Commissioners in November, several senior officers claimed some officers had become reluctant to use stop and search powers because they feared racism accusations, linking the fall to rising violent crime.

Other crime statistics, including burglary, assaults, and sexual crimes, also place London far ahead of New York City.

All of which seems to belie Mayor Khan’s contention that his city is “the safest global city in the world, and one of the safest cities in the world.”

Goofy
04-02-2018, 03:24 PM
Go London! :woot:

PorkChopSandwiches
04-02-2018, 03:59 PM
Ban knives

deebakes
04-02-2018, 09:39 PM
is this because of the meghan markle wedding? :-k

Griffin
04-02-2018, 11:20 PM
Just because King Arthur pulled a sword from a stone these people still live by the blade.

You would think that they could put away such ridiculous archaic thinking wouldn't you Monk? :-k

Teh One Who Knocks
04-03-2018, 01:19 PM
What makes this even more amazing is that they are doing it with far less people than New York. The population of NYC metro is 23.7 million while the population of London metro is only 13.9 million.

Muddy
04-03-2018, 02:06 PM
Wheres the village idiot to weigh in on this? Only concerned with America and guns?

redred
04-03-2018, 02:11 PM
ban london

Pony
04-03-2018, 03:48 PM
:lol:

redred
04-03-2018, 05:47 PM
Claim: London has overtaken New York for murders for the first time in modern history after a surge in knife crime across the capital.

Verdict: A selective use of statistics from the start of 2018 appears to bear this out - but the reality is that New York still appears to be more violent than London.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/169F2/production/_100685629_chart-londonnymurdernumbers-rutke-nc.png

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43628494

Teh One Who Knocks
04-03-2018, 05:56 PM
:-s

Nobody is talking about the past, the article is talking about this year, 2018.

Muddy
04-03-2018, 06:10 PM
Annnnd we have the evil pew-pews in our ignernt hands...

redred
04-03-2018, 06:11 PM
According to the newspaper, London overtook New York's "murder rate" in February "as the capital endured a dramatic surge in knife crime".

That is true. The New York Police Department dealt with 11 homicides in February - while London's Metropolitan Police opened investigations into 15 deaths. And in March, there were 22 killings in London and one fewer on the other side of the Atlantic.

But that grim month-by-month tally is not quite the whole story.

The one thing that's always true about statistics is that there will be blips - sudden rises or falls in the data. These two high months for London could ultimately turn out to be outliers.

We don't yet know. But older data shows why we should be cautious.

In January, for example, the Met investigated eight murders in London. The NYPD looked into 18 killings.

And that means that while Scotland Yard has opened 47 homicide inquiries so far this year, New York has in fact opened 50 murder files.

redred
04-03-2018, 06:13 PM
Annnnd we have the evil pew-pews in our ignernt hands...

1 mass shooting and you'll be back up front i'm sure :tup:

Muddy
04-03-2018, 06:15 PM
http://i66.tinypic.com/2805zt2.png

redred
04-03-2018, 06:20 PM
apart from nuns ?

Teh One Who Knocks
04-03-2018, 06:25 PM
According to the newspaper, London overtook New York's "murder rate" in February "as the capital endured a dramatic surge in knife crime".

That is true. The New York Police Department dealt with 11 homicides in February - while London's Metropolitan Police opened investigations into 15 deaths. And in March, there were 22 killings in London and one fewer on the other side of the Atlantic.

But that grim month-by-month tally is not quite the whole story.

The one thing that's always true about statistics is that there will be blips - sudden rises or falls in the data. These two high months for London could ultimately turn out to be outliers.

We don't yet know. But older data shows why we should be cautious.

In January, for example, the Met investigated eight murders in London. The NYPD looked into 18 killings.

And that means that while Scotland Yard has opened 47 homicide inquiries so far this year, New York has in fact opened 50 murder files.

And that doesn't take into account the fact that NYC has nearly twice as many people in it as London does. A quick bit of math shows that this year (thru March), NYC has a per capita murder rate of .21 per 100,000 people while London has a per capita murder rate of .34 per 100,000 people.

Muddy
04-03-2018, 06:51 PM
http://i67.tinypic.com/30bmbt1.jpg

DemonGeminiX
04-03-2018, 07:22 PM
According to the newspaper, London overtook New York's "murder rate" in February "as the capital endured a dramatic surge in knife crime".

That is true. The New York Police Department dealt with 11 homicides in February - while London's Metropolitan Police opened investigations into 15 deaths. And in March, there were 22 killings in London and one fewer on the other side of the Atlantic.

But that grim month-by-month tally is not quite the whole story.

The one thing that's always true about statistics is that there will be blips - sudden rises or falls in the data. These two high months for London could ultimately turn out to be outliers.

We don't yet know. But older data shows why we should be cautious.

In January, for example, the Met investigated eight murders in London. The NYPD looked into 18 killings.

And that means that while Scotland Yard has opened 47 homicide inquiries so far this year, New York has in fact opened 50 murder files.

:lol:

Where'd you copy and paste this from? I know you didn't write this. The Red I know doesn't use proper grammar and punctuation.

redred
04-03-2018, 07:52 PM
:lol: from the link i posted