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DemonGeminiX
05-28-2018, 03:09 AM
U.K. right-wing activist and journalist Tommy Robinson was arrested and reportedly jailed Friday after he filmed members of an alleged child grooming gang entering a court for trial -- but the details of his purported sentence remain murky after the judge ordered the press not to report on the case.

Robinson, the former head of the English Defense League and a longtime activist against Islam and Islamic migration, was arrested after he was filming men accused of being part of a gang that groomed children. Britain has been rocked by a series of child sex scandals perpetuated by gangs of predominantly Muslim men.

Video shows Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Lennon, being surrounded by as many as seven police officers as he livestreamed the incident on his phone. The police informed him he was being arrested for “breach of the peace.”

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But shortly after his arrest, a source with knowledge of the case told Fox News that he had been jailed for 13 months on a contempt-of-court charge.

A court listing indicated the case was “closed” by Friday afternoon.

One source said he was jailed in Hull Prison. The prison declined to comment to Fox News on whether Robinson was there. Leeds Crown Court also did not return a request for information.

According to The Independent, Robinson was already on a suspended sentence for contempt of court over a gang rape case in 2017.

The judge in the case on Friday slapped a reporting ban on the case. The order bans reporters from reporting on a case if there is reason to believe the reporting could prejudice a trial. The order prevents reporting until the conclusion of the trial Robinson was reporting on.

The gag order led to news outlets in the U.K. removing their reporting from their websites to comply with the order. Most remaining reporting in the U.K. comments on Robinson’s arrest, but not on his purported sentencing.

Sources with knowledge of Robinson’s case spoke on condition of anonymity in part because of fear they would be arrested for contempt. One told Fox that Robinson’s lawyer warned that, considering the presence of Muslim gang members in prison, a 13-month sentence was tantamount to a death sentence.

“Tommy’s lawyer said he will likely die in jail given his profile and previous credible threats, and the judge basically said he doesn’t care,” the source said. “He sentenced him to 13 months in prison.”

Reaction to Robinson’s sentencing from commentators and right-wing politicians was fierce, particularly as it is the latest in a series of commentators -- particularly those who are critical of Islam and mass Islamic migration into the U.K. -- being locked up by British authorities.

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“What kind of police state have we become?” tweeted U.K. Independence Party leader and European MP Gerard Batten.

“I am trying to recall a legal case where someone was convicted of a ‘crime’ which cannot be reported on,” he added. “Where he can be cast into prison without it being possible to report his name, offence, or place of imprisonment for fear of contempt of court.”

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“Arrested for “breaching the peace” while reporting on a Islamic grooming gang trial?” Dutch MP Geert Wilders tweeted. “Is this Saudi-Arabia?” Wilders also submitted parliamentary questions to the Dutch minister of foreign affairs on the matter.

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In the U.S., actress Roseanne Barr, star of the ABC revival of the sitcom "Roseanne," retweeted a number of supportive messages for Robinson, and tweeted out her own outrage.

Robinson has long been a polarizing figure in the U.K., with supporters saying that he speaks out against political correctness and the growing influence of Islamic extremism, while opponents claim he is a racist who stokes fear and division. A counter-terror police official said Robinson's material was partially responsible for the radicalization of a man who committed a terrorist attack on a mosque last year.

Robinson upset former CNN host Piers Morgan by brandishing a Koran and claiming it cites "murder and violence against us" in an appearance on "Good Morning Britain."

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"Put that book down and show some damn respect for peoples' religious beliefs," Morgan said.

On Saturday, supporters of Robinson protested outside the gates of 10 Downing Street.

Robinson is the latest right-wing figure to fall foul of the authorities. Canadian right-wing activist and journalist Lauren Southern was turned away from the U.K. in March shortly after she had made a video in Luton, an English town with a relatively high Muslim population, and put out a stall declaring: “Allah is gay” as an experiment to see what the reaction would be.

Also in March, “Generation Identity” activists Martin Sellner and Brittany Pettibone, were refused entry to the U.K. after being judged that their presence was also “not conducive to the public good.”

U.S. radio talk show host Michael Savage and blogger Pamela Geller, both of whom have been outspoken in their criticisms of Islamic extremism, have also been banned from entering the U.K.

Even President Trump has faced calls from politicians to be banned from the U.K. -- in particular over his views on immigration and his controversial travel ban. Trump will visit the U.K. in July, where he is expected to be met by protests.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05/26/right-wing-activist-tommy-robinson-reportedly-jailed-after-filming-outside-child-grooming-trial.html

lost in melb.
05-28-2018, 03:53 AM
Without having access to his own lawyer, Robinson was summarily tried and sentenced to 13 months behind bars. He was then transported to Hull Prison.
Yet to see credible evidence of this

DemonGeminiX
05-28-2018, 04:45 AM
It's being reported everywhere. They can't all be making it up.

lost in melb.
05-28-2018, 05:14 AM
I'm suggesting it can't be right...because it can't be right :dunno:

DemonGeminiX
05-28-2018, 06:27 AM
Why can't it be right? Because Britain's such a beacon of freedom? Like putting a gag order on the media, preventing them from reporting on cases that would maybe cause severe distress to the population? Preventing people from speaking freely about issues that the government keeps trying to cover up? Preventing people from speaking freely about things that flies in the face of what the government deems a part of their agenda? Intentionally stalling the actions that their citizens voted for the country to take, like leaving the EU? Preventing people with opposing opinions from entering the country? Forcing increasing taxes on the citizenry to pay for things that no one in their right mind would agree with?

Is that freedom?

I think our big brother is sick.

redred
05-28-2018, 07:14 AM
Its had a media black out so the media can't fuck up the case , the powers that be want these rapists guilty if the media start reporting names etc now their lawyers can start playing games including race cards , Tommy Robinson i believe was out on bail and one of his conditions of that bail which he signed , was not to go near the court where this trial was taking place,

redred
05-28-2018, 08:04 AM
this case was happening around the same time https://www.west-midlands.police.uk/news/5652/ten-court-coventry-child-sexual-abuse-case , again child grooming sex case yet tommy robinson choose not to go to this case , maybe because they were white ?

Goofy
05-28-2018, 08:37 AM
Why can't it be right? Because Britain's such a beacon of freedom? Like putting a gag order on the media, preventing them from reporting on cases that would maybe cause severe distress to the population? Preventing people from speaking freely about issues that the government keeps trying to cover up? Preventing people from speaking freely about things that flies in the face of what the government deems a part of their agenda? Intentionally stalling the actions that their citizens voted for the country to take, like leaving the EU? Preventing people with opposing opinions from entering the country? Forcing increasing taxes on the citizenry to pay for things that no one in their right mind would agree with?

Is that freedom?

I think our big brother is sick.
No such thing as freedom (of speech) anymore i'm afraid

DemonGeminiX
05-28-2018, 09:33 AM
Its had a media black out so the media can't fuck up the case , the powers that be want these rapists guilty if the media start reporting names etc now their lawyers can start playing games including race cards , Tommy Robinson i believe was out on bail and one of his conditions of that bail which he signed , was not to go near the court where this trial was taking place,

From what I read, the court he was barred from going near was a different one and clear across the country. Am I wrong?

DemonGeminiX
05-28-2018, 09:33 AM
No such thing as freedom (of speech) anymore i'm afraid

It's scary how it's getting to be that way.

DemonGeminiX
05-28-2018, 09:45 AM
From what I read, the court he was barred from going near was a different one and clear across the country. Am I wrong?

He received his suspended sentence of contempt of court for using a camera inside the court at the Canterbury Crown Court in May 2017. The court he was outside of when he was arrested was the Leeds Crown Court.

A. How long was the suspended sentence valid for?
B. Why is being outside of a court a violation of the terms of his probation? By all accounts, there were other reporters there doing far more than he was. Is that true?
C. Are there no jurisdictional issues in England? What I mean is that, if you're banned from one court (Canterbury), does it trickle down to include all courts in the rest of the country (including, but not limited to, Leeds)?
D. They say it is extremely odd that he was sent straight to jail after arrested. Is it? Does the system move that fast on a suspended sentence/ parole violation? Don't things move ridiculously slow over there in your judicial system?

lost in melb.
05-28-2018, 10:06 AM
Why can't it be right? Because Britain's such a beacon of freedom? Like putting a gag order on the media, preventing them from reporting on cases that would maybe cause severe distress to the population? Preventing people from speaking freely about issues that the government keeps trying to cover up? Preventing people from speaking freely about things that flies in the face of what the government deems a part of their agenda? Intentionally stalling the actions that their citizens voted for the country to take, like leaving the EU? Preventing people with opposing opinions from entering the country? Forcing increasing taxes on the citizenry to pay for things that no one in their right mind would agree with?

Is that freedom?

I think our big brother is sick.

These are all important things. I just don't think this article is the most accurate example of loss of freedom of speech. There appear to be several factors at play.

DemonGeminiX
05-28-2018, 10:16 AM
These are all important things. I just don't think this article is the most accurate example of loss of freedom of speech. There appear to be several factors at play.

You're right. And I asked the questions above that will clear up any and all confusion.

If the answers come back:

A. his probation was for a year or longer
B. yes, being outside of the court was specifically in the terms of his probation as well
C. the terms of his probation specifically included all courts
D. and they move as fast as they wanna...

... then fuck him, he'll do his 13 months like he's supposed to. He should have known better.

lost in melb.
05-28-2018, 10:22 AM
Agreed. The Devil will be in the details.

redred
05-28-2018, 11:01 AM
his probation was for a year or longer

18 months from last may

redred
05-28-2018, 11:11 AM
i would think but don't have evidence that that he wasn't allowed to film outside any court in the UK just because of who he is and yes if you're on probation and you get caught it is possible and likely that you don't pass go or anything else fun you do get taken straight to jail to do the time

DemonGeminiX
05-28-2018, 12:46 PM
i would think but don't have evidence that that he wasn't allowed to film outside any court in the UK just because of who he is and yes if you're on probation and you get caught it is possible and likely that you don't pass go or anything else fun you do get taken straight to jail to do the time

Well I was thinking, it's not about where the court is, it's about what he was doing: violating a court order against recording devices. It doesn't really matter if he's inside or outside, that's splitting hairs. Also, since the original sentence was suspended, he's already been sentenced. Unless the judge is going to add time for the latest offense, then there's no real reason to mess around and waste the taxpayers' money with another lengthy hearing.

I may agree with some of his sentiments, but really, if you can't follow the simple rules that society sets for everybody... c'mon, man.

redred
05-28-2018, 01:00 PM
If it helps the original sentence was for 18 months the 13 he's now doing will be the time if he behaves and he'll do that in isolation because there's a price on his head from the Asian community