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Teh One Who Knocks
09-10-2018, 11:55 AM
by Pete Blackburn - CBS Sports


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Saturday's US Open women's final went to Naomi Osaka, who became the first Japanese player to win a Grand Slam event. However, the result was overshadowed by a controversial dispute between Serena Williams and chair umpire Carlos Ramos during the second set at Arthur Ashe Stadium.

On Sunday, Williams was fined $17,000 for her role in the incident.
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During that second set, Williams was given a warning from Ramos after the umpire determined her coach was attempting to instruct her using hand signals, which results in code violation. Williams was upset by the accusation, denying that she received any coaching and claiming that her coach was simply giving her a thumbs up. She demanded an apology from Ramos.

"You owe me an apology. I have never cheated in my life! I have a daughter and I stand for what's right for her," Williams told Ramos on the court. "I don't cheat to win. I'd rather lose."

Williams remained upset and later smashed her racket on the court, which resulted in another violation -- this time resulting in a point penalty. This made the 36-year-old Williams even more upset, leading to her further chastising Ramos -- including calling him a "thief." Eventually, a full game penalty was leveled against Williams.

It was a costly violation for Williams, who dropped the second set -- and the match -- shortly thereafter. Even as she tried to remain gracious in defeat, it was clear that Williams was still bothered by the incident.

It was clear that Williams was extremely bothered by the game penalty. She accused Ramos of sexism, saying she wouldn't have been penalized for verbal abuse if she were a man. She doubled down on that in her post-match remarks.

"I can't sit here and say I wouldn't say he's a thief because I feel like he took the game from me," Williams said at the podium. "I've seen other men call other umpires several things and I'm here fighting for women's rights and women's equality. And for him to take a game? It made me feel like it was a sexist remark. I mean, like he's never taken a game from a man because he's said thief. It blows my mind. But I'm gonna continue to fight for women."

After the match, Williams' coach, Patrick Mouratoglou, admitted that he was trying to coach Williams during the final.

"I'm honest, I was coaching," Mouratoglou ceded. "I don't think she looked at me so that's why she didn't even think I was."

"But I was, like 100 percent of the coaches in 100 percent of the matches so we have to stop this hypocritical thing. Sascha (Bajin, Osaka's coach) was coaching every point, too."

Mouratoglou also said that Ramos should have handled his interaction with Williams differently, finding a way to de-escalate the situation rather than creating additional drama, because you "don't screw a Grand Slam final."

Mouratoglou said that, if he was Ramos, he would have told Serena, "'I've seen your coach do a movement and tell him to stop, otherwise you'll have a warning.' And I don't understand why he didn't do that, where all the other chair umpires do this all year long, including him."

Goofy
09-10-2018, 12:36 PM
Serena's an egotistical arsehole that believes she's bigger than the game, fuck her, she should get a ban for what she did. Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and the young first-time finalist had acted like that..... pretty sure there would be widespread condemnation.

PorkChopSandwiches
09-10-2018, 03:52 PM
:idk: dont cheat

Teh One Who Knocks
09-10-2018, 07:23 PM
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lost in melb.
09-10-2018, 09:58 PM
Serena's a woman? I never realised :-s

RBP
09-10-2018, 10:37 PM
:lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
09-11-2018, 10:43 AM
By Samuel Chamberlain | Fox News


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Eighteen-time Grand Slam singles champion Martina Navratilova criticized Serena Williams' conduct during her U.S. Open defeat in the pages of The New York Times Monday, writing that Williams engaged in behavior "that no one should be engaging in on the court."

Williams was cited three times by chair umpire Carlos Ramos during the second set of her 6-2, 6-4 loss to Naomi Osaka in Saturday's singles final. The first penalty, for getting coaching signals, earned her a warning. The second penalty, for breaking her racket, cost her a point. The third penalty, for berating Ramos and calling him a thief, cost her a game.

Williams argued that Ramos would not have penalized her so harshly if she were a man. WTA CEO Steve Simon agreed, saying in a statement that the organization "believes that there should be no difference in the standards of tolerance provided to the emotions expressed by men vs. women ... We do not believe that this was done [Saturday] night."

However, Navratilova wrote that the focus on the sexism controversy "is missing the point."

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"[W]e cannot measure ourselves by what we think we should also be able to get away with," she said, adding, "There have been many times when I was playing that I wanted to break my racket into a thousand pieces. Then I thought about the kids watching. And I grudgingly held on to that racket."

"Had I behaved like that on a tennis court, I would have expected to get everything that happened to Serena," Navratilova told Times reporter Juliet Macur in a separate story. "It should've ended ... with the point warning, but Serena just couldn’t let it go."

In her op-ed, Navratilova said that Williams was correct when she claimed that "[t]here is a huge double standard for women when it comes to how bad behavior is punished — and not just in tennis."

However, she added, "I don't believe it's a good idea to apply a standard of 'If men can get away with it, women should be able to, too.' Rather, I think the question we have to ask ourselves is this: What is the right way to behave to honor our sport and to respect our opponents?"

Navratilova's comments were backed by longtime player-turned-broadcaster Mary Carillo.

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"At her very best — and she is very often at her very best — I respect and admire Serena beyond measure," Carillo told MSNBC on Monday. "...But at her very worst, as she was on [Saturday] night, she acts like a bully."

"If you follow tennis at all, you know those rules. They are inviolate," Carillo added. "A lot of these people that are weighing in and saying double standard. I'm saying, you know what? This is not the hill you want to die on."

Also Monday, the International Tennis Federation backed Ramos, saying his "decisions were in accordance with the relevant rules" and "reaffirmed by the U.S. Open's decision to fine Serena Williams for the three offenses."

On Sunday, tournament referee Brian Earley docked Williams a total of $17,000: $10,000 for "verbal abuse" of Ramos, $4,000 for being warned for coaching and $3,000 for breaking her racket.

The ITF added that "Ramos undertook his duties as an official according to the relevant rule book and acted at all times with professionalism and integrity."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Teh One Who Knocks
09-11-2018, 10:43 AM
"[W]e cannot measure ourselves by what we think we should also be able to get away with," she said, adding, "There have been many times when I was playing that I wanted to break my racket into a thousand pieces. Then I thought about the kids watching. And I grudgingly held on to that racket."

"Had I behaved like that on a tennis court, I would have expected to get everything that happened to Serena," Navratilova told Times reporter Juliet Macur in a separate story. "It should've ended ... with the point warning, but Serena just couldn’t let it go."

In her op-ed, Navratilova said that Williams was correct when she claimed that "[t]here is a huge double standard for women when it comes to how bad behavior is punished — and not just in tennis."

However, she added, "I don't believe it's a good idea to apply a standard of 'If men can get away with it, women should be able to, too.' Rather, I think the question we have to ask ourselves is this: What is the right way to behave to honor our sport and to respect our opponents?"

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Goofy
09-11-2018, 11:39 AM
Good on you Martina :tup:

lost in melb.
09-11-2018, 12:26 PM
Can't get the exact tweet, but I think you know what I'm trying to say. Agree with black girl re the first pic. Those two pics don't necessarily equate ( funny though)<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How is this racist? Cartoonist always over emphasize. Serena acted a like a baby and he drew a crying baby. We have to learn to pick our battles or they will stop taking us seriously.</p>&mdash; Townsend♏️ (@townsendmo0) <a href="https://twitter.com/townsendmo0/status/1039216670877908992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>..

Muddy
09-11-2018, 01:09 PM
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lost in melb.
09-11-2018, 02:48 PM
Yes. That's the exact cartoon!

lost in melb.
09-11-2018, 03:56 PM
The fluff-heads are coming out of the woodwork

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The fact that Mark Knight is doubling down on his racist cartoon just goes to show how much black women have to fight for our right to be human. <br>Y&#39;all sicken me, but you will not stop my shine.</p>&mdash; Chikodili Agwuna™ (@chikiguna) <a href="https://twitter.com/chikiguna/status/1039205440024760320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Muddy
09-11-2018, 03:58 PM
Lets just all take a minute to be thankful they were not dress code violations..

Godfather
09-11-2018, 11:50 PM
I was reading about this Ump. Apparently he’s a loser, Rafa said he’d never play for him again too and Rafa seems like a real chill dude. I think this Carlos guy is a loser.

lost in melb.
09-11-2018, 11:56 PM
I was reading about this Ump. Apparently he’s a loser, Rafa said he’d never play for him again too and Rafa seems like a real chill dude. I think this Carlos guy is a loser.

You could be right. But in this case it looks like the penalties were given out appropriately and fairly - perhaps other Umps would have let it slide but that may not always be appropriate either. Tough call.

Godfather
09-12-2018, 03:34 AM
Ya true, I'm not here to defend Serena's actions because they were inexcusable, but I don't think any of us would've been too happy with this ump's aristocratic b.s. either.

Teh One Who Knocks
09-12-2018, 11:02 AM
By Gerren Keith Gaynor | Fox News


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Professional tennis umpires are reportedly threatening to unionize and boycott after Serena Williams accused an umpire of sexism over violations she received during her US Open championship loss to Naomi Osaka.

Umpires are reportedly “disturbed” by the response from Williams, and league officials who publicly supported her.

Williams gave chair umpire, Carlos Ramos, a verbal lashing over the accusation that she received coaching while on the court.

Ramos ultimately charged Williams with three infractions: the illegal coaching, racket abuse, and-- after calling Ramous a “thief” and a “liar”-- another violation for verbal abuse.

Since then, many have come to the defense of Williams and accused Ramos of holding the tennis star to a different standard because she’s a woman.

In response to swelling criticisms of Ramos’ officiating, some umpires, though technically not allowed to talk with the press, are speaking out on behalf of the fraternity of tennis referees.

“There is a lot of unhappiness in the umpiring community because no one is standing up for officials,” an anonymous senior umpire told the Guardian.

“Umpires keep asking: ‘What if it was me in that chair on Saturday?’ There is a widespread feeling that Carlos was hung out to dry for nearly 48 hours and that no one is standing up for officials.”

Several umpires are privately advocating for officials to unionize, the Guardian reports, though presently umpires do not have a union to organize any form of a boycott.

“Umpires don’t have any independent means of representation and are employed by the governing bodies. If talking to the media is not allowed, and governing bodies are speaking out against them, what are umpires supposed to do?” another source said.

In an interview with ESPN on Sunday, USTA President Katrina Adams called the US Open event “unfortunate” and argued that things would have been different if Williams were a male player.

“We have to have consistency, because when you look at what the women, in this case Serena, is feeling, we watch the guys do this all the time,” Adams said. “They are badgering the chair umpires on the changeover. Nothing happens.”

The International Tennis Federation, however, issued its own statement supporting Ramos, who is a contracted gold badge umpire with the organization.

“Carlos Ramos is one of the most experienced and respected umpires in tennis,” the ITF statement said. “Mr Ramos’s decisions were in accordance with the relevant rules and were reaffirmed by the US Open’s decision to fine Ms Williams for the three offences.”

Teh One Who Knocks
09-12-2018, 11:17 AM
By Dawn Neesom - The Daily Star


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Just seven days ago the award for screeching harpy went to Roxanne Pallett.

A creature whose grasp of reality is about as flimsy as the plot of Bodyguard.

Fast forward and bring on our new contender: Serena Williams.

Yep the best female tennis player of our time with 39 major titles under her belt.

A proper role model to young women – strong, determined, talented and nobody’s fool.

Not for her endless pouty, scantily-clad Instagram selfies.

Nope instead we had a real body, gleaming with health and vigour.

And then came this week’s US Open where our heroine threw a tantrum that would shame your average toddler.

Long story short. Serena, 36, was being beaten by Naomi Osaka, 20.

The umpire – Carlos Ramos, one of the toughest on the circuit – punished her for getting illegal advice from her coach.

She then smashed her racket into pieces and called Ramos a thief, a sexist pig and demanded he apologise.

He docked her a game. If she’d been a footballer she’d have been sent off.

It was shocking, abusive and aggressive behaviour.

As if that wasn’t disappointing enough Serena went on to shriek: “I’m a mother, I have a daughter.”

Er, you what love? What the hell has that got to do with your bloody forehand smash?

Can you imagine a male player who happened to be a dad screaming that as a defence? No.

For decades women have fought to prove that being a mother doesn’t hold you back.

It might not be possible to have it all but having a womb doesn’t reduce you to a gibbering, hormonal, overwrought wreck. Oops.

Thanks for that Serena.

In one deranged outburst you set back, not just female tennis players, but women as a whole too.

The usual feminist Twitter hate mob has backed Ms Williams playing the sexism card without even investigating the crime.

Meanwhile, sane tennis players like the cool headed Annabel Croft have pointed out that Ramos is the sort of umpire who would have penalised a man in exactly the same way.

The fault is in the way different umpires officiate, bugger all to do with sexism. Not that that was going to stop Serena who claimed she was fighting against the anti-women agenda in tennis.

Yeah, unless that woman was opponent Naomi Osaka who had just won her first major title, an achievement promptly forgotten in Serenagate.

The poor girl even felt she had to apologise.

Meanwhile, Serena went home to cash her £1.3m runners-up cheque and post a cutesy picture of her daughter Alexis, who turns one next week.

Cos, you know, Serena’s a mum… So everyone moves on. Or do they?

Yesterday an Australian newspaper printed a cartoon depicting a heavily-caricatured Serena jumping on her racket. Bingo. Race card time.

The artist, one Mark Knight, exaggerated Serena’s hair and facial features as caricatures do.

If she’d been white and been drawn unflatteringly no-one would have said a thing. It’s a toon.

Like Roxanne’s sorry example before it’s about females trying to “empower” women by playing the victim card.

And if anyone can explain the sense behind that please do. Cos this isn’t #MeToo. It’s #MeMeMe.

Goofy
09-12-2018, 11:43 AM
By Dawn Neesom - The Daily Star


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Just seven days ago the award for screeching harpy went to Roxanne Pallett.

A creature whose grasp of reality is about as flimsy as the plot of Bodyguard.

Fast forward and bring on our new contender: Serena Williams.

Yep the best female tennis player of our time with 39 major titles under her belt.

A proper role model to young women – strong, determined, talented and nobody’s fool.

Not for her endless pouty, scantily-clad Instagram selfies.

Nope instead we had a real body, gleaming with health and vigour.

And then came this week’s US Open where our heroine threw a tantrum that would shame your average toddler.

Long story short. Serena, 36, was being beaten by Naomi Osaka, 20.

The umpire – Carlos Ramos, one of the toughest on the circuit – punished her for getting illegal advice from her coach.

She then smashed her racket into pieces and called Ramos a thief, a sexist pig and demanded he apologise.

He docked her a game. If she’d been a footballer she’d have been sent off.

It was shocking, abusive and aggressive behaviour.

As if that wasn’t disappointing enough Serena went on to shriek: “I’m a mother, I have a daughter.”

Er, you what love? What the hell has that got to do with your bloody forehand smash?

Can you imagine a male player who happened to be a dad screaming that as a defence? No.

For decades women have fought to prove that being a mother doesn’t hold you back.

It might not be possible to have it all but having a womb doesn’t reduce you to a gibbering, hormonal, overwrought wreck. Oops.

Thanks for that Serena.

In one deranged outburst you set back, not just female tennis players, but women as a whole too.

The usual feminist Twitter hate mob has backed Ms Williams playing the sexism card without even investigating the crime.

Meanwhile, sane tennis players like the cool headed Annabel Croft have pointed out that Ramos is the sort of umpire who would have penalised a man in exactly the same way.

The fault is in the way different umpires officiate, bugger all to do with sexism. Not that that was going to stop Serena who claimed she was fighting against the anti-women agenda in tennis.

Yeah, unless that woman was opponent Naomi Osaka who had just won her first major title, an achievement promptly forgotten in Serenagate.

The poor girl even felt she had to apologise.

Meanwhile, Serena went home to cash her £1.3m runners-up cheque and post a cutesy picture of her daughter Alexis, who turns one next week.

Cos, you know, Serena’s a mum… So everyone moves on. Or do they?

Yesterday an Australian newspaper printed a cartoon depicting a heavily-caricatured Serena jumping on her racket. Bingo. Race card time.

The artist, one Mark Knight, exaggerated Serena’s hair and facial features as caricatures do.

If she’d been white and been drawn unflatteringly no-one would have said a thing. It’s a toon.

Like Roxanne’s sorry example before it’s about females trying to “empower” women by playing the victim card.

And if anyone can explain the sense behind that please do. Cos this isn’t #MeToo. It’s #MeMeMe.
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