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Teh One Who Knocks
11-30-2018, 06:20 PM
Tribune Media Wire


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CLEVELAND -- An Ohio radio station has stopped playing “Baby It's Cold Outside" this holiday season after it says listeners voiced concern about the song’s predatory undertones amid the Me Too movement.

WDOK Christmas 102.1 pulled the song from its around-the-clock rotation of Christmas music this week after receiving a call from a listener who suggested it is inappropriate in 2018.

The call-and-response song written in the 1940s includes a woman singing that she has to leave a man’s house as he tries to lure her to stay.

In the song, the female sings “I really can’t stay,” to which the man responds, “But baby, it’s cold outside.”

Other lyrics include the woman singing “Say, what’s in this drink?” and “I simply must go … the answer is no.”

“It wasn't really our decision. It's the decision of our listeners,” WDOK midday host Desiray told WJW, noting the Christmas lineup is decided by the station’s listeners.

The station said it posted a poll about the song on its website and a clear majority of respondents supported the decision to remove the song from the station’s lineup.

Poll results were not visible on the station's website. However, a poll on the station's Facebook page showed that among more than 600 votes by Thursday night, 92 percent of respondents favored playing the song while just 8 percent felt it was inappropriate.

“People might say, ‘Oh, enough with that Me Too,’ but if you really put that aside and listen to the lyrics, it's not something I would want my daughter to be in that kind of a situation,” Desiray said. “The tune might be catchy, but let's maybe not promote that sort of an idea.”

Cleveland Rape Crisis Center President and CEO Sondra Miller said the organization supports the decision.

“I think it's taking a 2018 lens on a song that was written a very long time ago,” she said, adding the move reflects evolving values.

Societal norms were different when the song was written. An unmarried woman staying at a man’s house was scandalous, even if she wanted to.

In the song, the woman expresses concern about what others might think of her spending the night, as the man tries to convince her to stay.

While some might view the song and its lyrics as a playful, coy back-and-forth from another time, Miller said it might have a different meaning to a rape survivor.

“It really pushed the line of consent,” Miller said. “The character in the song is saying ‘no,’ and they're saying well, ‘Does no really mean yes?’ and I think in 2018 what we know is consent is ‘yes’ and if you get a ‘no,’ it means ‘no’ and you should stop right there.”

Miller said the song is an example of the rape culture in which we live, and the first step to preventing sexual violence is to change that.

Full lyrics


I really can't stay (but baby, it's cold outside)
I've got to go away (but baby, it's cold outside)
This evening has been (been hoping that you'd drop in)
So very nice (i'll hold your hands, they're just like ice)
My mother will start to worry (beautiful what's your hurry?)
My father will be pacing the floor (listen to the fireplace roar)
So really I'd better scurry (beautiful please don't hurry)
But maybe just a half a drink more (put some records on while I pour)
The neighbors might think (baby, it's bad out there)
Say what's in this drink? (no cabs to be had out there)
I wish I knew how (your eyes are like starlight now)
To break this spell (i'll take your hat, your hair looks swell)
I ought to say, no, no, no sir (mind if I move in closer?)
At least I'm gonna say that I tried (what's the sense in hurtin' my pride?)
I really can't stay (oh baby don't hold out)
But baby, it's cold outside
I simply must go (but baby, it's cold outside)
The answer is no (but baby, it's cold outside)
Your welcome has been(how lucky that you dropped in)
So nice and warm (look out the window at this dawn)
My sister will be suspicious (gosh your lips look delicious)
My brother will be there at the door (waves upon the tropical shore)
My maiden aunts mind is vicious (gosh your lips are delicious)
But maybe just a cigarette more (never such a blizzard before)
I've gotta get home(but baby, you'd freeze out there)
Say lend me a coat(it's up to your knees out there)
You've really been grand (i thrill when you touch my hand)
But don't you see? (how can you do this thing to me?)
There's bound to be talk tomorrow (think of my lifelong sorrow)
At least there will be plenty implied (if you got pnuemonia and died)
I really can't stay (get over that old out)
Baby, it's cold
Baby, it's cold outside

RBP
11-30-2018, 06:29 PM
Yes, this has come up before. I didn't realize it got traction. :| This should be in the "C'mon, man" thread.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-30-2018, 06:34 PM
All because of ONE person that called in to complain :|

RBP
11-30-2018, 06:45 PM
All because of ONE screeching SJW called in to complain :|

:ftfy:

Teh One Who Knocks
11-30-2018, 06:53 PM
I like the way today's world works. The smallest possible minority (ONE) called in to complain and then they put it to a vote that turns out to be 92% in favor of the song, so of course the only logical course of action is to remove the song from airplay :thumbsup:










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Noilly Pratt
11-30-2018, 07:03 PM
The punk version of this is "Should I stay or should I go" by the Clash. :D

My daughter and I had this very conversation last year about this tune, and I said "It's a product of its age" and she said "yeah, still a bit creepy, though". And I agreed.

On the surface, it's a leery and creepy tune...the predatory man saying "stay" and the woman saying "oh no I can't"... but maybe it's actually deeper than that.

The woman, given this is the 50s, doesn't want to appear "easy" and protests...but perhaps wants to stay. I'm not saying I like the tune, or the ickyness, but it is a product of its age.

To end the conversation, I played my daughter "Dreams of the Everyday Housewife" just to drive the point home that some songs are creaky and old...this one is very low on the creepy factor, but the outdated norm of hubby going to work while the housewife daydreams of her dizzy happy life that really never happened is a bit cringey viewed through 2018 eyes.


https://youtu.be/LonUQ5o-vLc

For the guitarists out there, it has cool strumming pattern and diminished chords in it, and is harder to play than it first appears if you are doing it to the song - as are most Glen Campbell tunes.

Teh One Who Knocks
11-30-2018, 07:27 PM
It's just a song :|

Muddy
11-30-2018, 07:32 PM
Whats wrong with begging for her to stay? She can leave any time she wants..

Teh One Who Knocks
11-30-2018, 07:34 PM
We should ban that Christmas song for sure, but let all that rap music about fucking bitches and hoes be what dominates the Top 20 songs any more :)

Muddy
11-30-2018, 07:36 PM
Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang (Gucci gang!)
Spend three racks on a new chain
My bitch love do cocaine
I fuck a bitch, I forgot her name
I can't buy a bitch no wedding ring
Rather go and buy Balmains
Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang (Gucci gang!)
Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang (Gucci gang!)
Spend three racks on a new chain
My bitch love do cocaine
I fuck a bitch, I forgot her name
I can't buy no bitch no wedding ring no
Rather go and buy Balmains
Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang

My lean cost more than your rent, it do
Your momma still live in a tent
Still slanging dope in the 'jects
Me and my grandma take meds
None of this shit be new to me, no
Fucking my teacher, call it 'tutory
Bought some red bottoms, cost hella Gs
Fuck your airline, fuck your company fuck it
Bitch your breath smell like some cigarettes cigarettes
I'd rather fuck a bitch from the projects
They kicked me out the plane off a Percocet
Now Lil Pump flying private jet
Everybody scream, "Fuck WestJet!" (Fuck em)
Lil Pump still sell that meth
Hundred on my wrist sipping on Tech
Fuck a lil bitch, make her pussy wet what?

Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang (Gucci gang!)
Spend three racks on a new chain
My bitch love do cocaine
I fuck a bitch, I forgot her name
I can't buy a bitch no wedding ring
Rather go and buy Balmains
Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang (Gucci gang!)
Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang (Gucci gang!)
Spend three racks on a new chain
My bitch love do cocaine
I fuck a bitch, I forgot her name
I can't buy no bitch no wedding ring no
Rather go and buy Balmains
Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang

PorkChopSandwiches
11-30-2018, 08:09 PM
"Seventeen"

Yeah, I saw sparks fly
From the corner of my eye
And when I turned
Ooh, it was love at first sight

I said, please excuse me
I didn't catch your name
Oh, it'd be a shame
Not to see you again

And just when I thought she was comin' to my door
She whispered sweet and brought me to the floor
She said

I'm only seventeen (seventeen)
But I'll show you love like you've never seen
She's only seventeen
Daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for me

Mmm, come to my place
We can talk it over
Oh, everything
going down in your head

She said take it easy
I need some time
Time to work it out
To make you mine

And just when I thought she was comin' to my door
She whispered sweet and brought me to the floor
She said

I'm only seventeen (seventeen)
You ain't seen love, ain't seen nothing like me
She's only seventeen
Seventeen

Such a bad girl
Loves to work me overtime
Feels good, ha
Dancing close to that borderline

She's a magic mountain
She's a leather glove
Oh, she's my soul
It must be love

I'm only seventeen (seventeen)
Girl, she gives me love like I've never seen
She's only seventeen (seventeen)
Daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for me (seventeen)
She's everything I need (seventeen)
Daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough, old enough for me
Yeah, yeah, yeah

Teh One Who Knocks
11-30-2018, 09:23 PM
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