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Teh One Who Knocks
07-11-2011, 12:27 PM
Associated Press


BEIJING – The United States is spending too much on its military in light of its recent economic troubles, China's top general said Monday while playing down his country's own military capabilities.

The chief of the General Staff of the People's Liberation Army, Chen Bingde, told reporters that he thought the U.S. should cut back on defense spending for the sake of its taxpayers. He was speaking during a joint news conference in which he traded barbs with visiting U.S. counterpart Adm. Mike Mullen.

"I know the U.S. is still recovering from the financial crisis," Chen said. "Under such circumstances, it is still spending a lot of money on its military and isn't that placing too much pressure on the taxpayers?"

"If the U.S. could reduce its military spending a bit and spend more on improving the livelihood of the American people ... wouldn't that be a better scenario?" he said.

The visit by Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is the first of its kind in four years. Mullen and Chen are trying to upgrade military-to-military ties after setbacks over U.S. arms sales to Taiwan, cyberattacks traced to China and concern about Beijing's military plans.

Chen made a similar trip to the U.S. in May as part of efforts to improve often frosty relations between the two militaries, especially as the economies of the countries become more codependent.

The world's two biggest economies frequently clash over financial issues, such as Beijing's resistance to exchange rate reforms and the ballooning U.S. trade deficit with China. Such issues are not usually at the forefront of military to military talks, though both sides chide each other for their defense spending.

China's military budget of $95 billion this year is the world's second-highest after Washington's planned $650 billion in defense spending.

Chen said China remains more than two decades behind the U.S. in terms of military technology and Beijing still needs to upgrade by adding new hardware such as aircraft carriers.

"China is a big country and we have quite a number of ships but these are only small ships and this is not commensurate with the status of a country like China," he said. "Of course I hope that in future we will have aircraft carriers."

Chen said U.S. military exercises with the Philippines and Vietnam in the disputed South China Sea were inappropriate because of heightened tensions in the region, while Mullen defended the operations as routine.

Acid Trip
07-11-2011, 02:03 PM
I wonder if the Chinese carriers will be US knockoffs like everything else they produce.

Teh One Who Knocks
07-11-2011, 02:10 PM
"If the U.S. could reduce its military spending a bit and spend more on improving the livelihood of the American people ... wouldn't that be a better scenario?" he said.

Because the Chinese standard of living is so much better than it is here in the US :rolleyes:

FBD
07-11-2011, 05:00 PM
:roll: we could cut out all military spending and the entitlements would still take over completely if left untouched.

Godfather
07-11-2011, 05:11 PM
Aren't there like 44 million Americans on food stamps now? And only 18,000 jobs created last month with unemployment at over 9%. Spending $700 billions a year is pretty outrageous, all things considered.

It is ridiculous coming from China though: the home of famine and oppression :wha:

Teh One Who Knocks
07-11-2011, 05:15 PM
Aren't there like 44 million Americans on food stamps now? Spending around $700 billions a year is pretty outrageous, all things considered.

It is ridiculous coming from China though: the home of famine and oppression :wha:

That's my point on the whole thing...who the hell do the Chinese think they are criticizing how other countries are run? :wha:

And at least with the US military budget, it's (fairly) transparent and you can believe that figure that was released for the Pentagon's budget. But if anyone believes that China only spent $95 billion on defense, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that's for sale.

Godfather
07-11-2011, 05:19 PM
I get that for sure. Everyone takes cracks at the US all the time. I understand being pissed at China for having a big mouth and its hypocrisy

But aren't you also pissed at your own country for the problems that are more relevant to you and your friends/family? I mean... it's still a valid point it seems. That's real money.

redred
07-11-2011, 05:23 PM
:potkettle:

Godfather
07-11-2011, 05:35 PM
Worry about yourselves :lol:

China is already fucked
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-gary-shilling-believes-in-a-chinese-hard-landing-2011-7

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-gary-shilling-believes-in-a-chinese-hard-landing-2011-7

Muddy
07-11-2011, 05:52 PM
I lovvvve a good hot and sour soup... :tup:

DemonGeminiX
07-11-2011, 06:04 PM
But if anyone believes that China only spent $95 billion on defense, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that's for sale.

:hand:

I already sold that last week. Sorry.


I lovvvve a good hot and sour soup... :tup:

With the cream of Sum Yung Guy?

8-[

Muddy
07-11-2011, 06:09 PM
You post belongs in reds bad joke thread, dgx... :lol:

DemonGeminiX
07-11-2011, 06:12 PM
I know. I suck at jokes.

:oops:

Hugh_Janus
07-11-2011, 06:13 PM
That's my point on the whole thing...who the hell do the Chinese think they are criticizing how other countries are run? :wha:

And at least with the US military budget, it's (fairly) transparent and you can believe that figure that was released for the Pentagon's budget. But if anyone believes that China only spent $95 billion on defense, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that's for sale.
with their labour rates, it probably is only a $95billion they spend :lol:

Joebob034
07-11-2011, 08:25 PM
we should spend less on our military so we can buy more lead-laced products from China :thumbsup: