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Godfather
03-02-2019, 10:13 AM
China banned people from buying plane or train tickets 23 million times last year because their social credit scores were too low, according to the Associated Press, which obtained a copy of a government report.

The government rolled out the travel ban on people with low social credit scores last May. According to a report from China’s National Public Credit Information Center from last week, people have been blocked 17.5 million times from purchasing airplane tickets, and 5.5 million times from buying high-speed train tickets. These people had become “discredited” for unspecified behavioral crimes. That’s up from only 6.15 million citizens being blocked from taking flights as of 2017, according to China’s supreme court.

As part of the system, the Chinese government also employs a public blacklist of those who have been found guilty of crimes in court and punishes them partly by limiting their ability to buy plane and train tickets.

Social credit scores are also supposed to help prevent annoying behavior on public transport, such as one case where a passenger who took up another person’s reserved seat and refused to get up. The video of the passenger refusing to budge went viral, with Chinese users calling for more punishment for people who act this way.

The Chinese government has independent policies in place to monitor individuals and punish bad behavior. Your social ranking in the government’s eyes might be lowered if you evade taxes, scam other people, make fake ads, or take up extra seats on the train. Currently, whenever a person passes by a checkpoint, like when crossing into another city, or entering and leaving China, they’re asked for fingerprints and identification already.

Once the files are successfully collected, the hope is that authorities will be able to search for them based on fingerprints and other biometrics. By 2020, China aims to have a file on every Chinese citizen that includes all the data collected on their behavior, according to publicly available government documents translated here.

Godfather
03-02-2019, 10:13 AM
Here are some of the actions the Chinese government deems "bad behaviors" that warrant punishment:


Bad driving or traffic offenses
Jaywalking
Smoking on trains
Not cleaning up after your dog
Not having your dog on a leash
Not paying debts
Not paying taxes
Playing too many video games
Watching pornography
Making frivolous purchases
Consuming too much alcohol or junk food
Criticizing the government
Criticizing the social credit system
Visiting unauthorized websites
Being friends with or messaging others with low scores or those who commit the above offenses

Muddy
03-02-2019, 01:08 PM
#BlackMirror

lost in melb.
03-02-2019, 01:31 PM
I've been following China's control and monitoring of its citizens for some time. There's a whole other thread worth of material on the technology and facial recognition they use to track people everywhere they go. Real big brother zoomba!

At first I was appalled at the frightening and flagrant violation of human rights that we take for granted in the west. But then I've noticed how Chinese behave in Australia - particularly in a business sense...their near-sightedness, complete lack of morality and flagrant dishonesty. And how they are roaring through Cambodia and other 3rd world countries setting up casinos and whorehouses and other premises of exploitation. These fuckers are out of control. And the few that travel abroad are the 'cream of the crop' too..so in short given the average Chinese would probably sell his Grandma for pet-food I can understand how the general populous needs to be kept on a leash until the whole country grows up a bit. My :2cents:

lost in melb.
03-02-2019, 01:35 PM
#BlackMirror

Never watched it. Any good?

RBP
03-02-2019, 02:51 PM
I've been following China's control and monitoring of its citizens for some time. There's a whole other thread worth of material on the technology and facial recognition they use to track people everywhere they go. Real big brother zoomba!

At first I was appalled at the frightening and flagrant violation of human rights that we take for granted in the west. But then I've noticed how Chinese behave in Australia - particularly in a business sense...their near-sightedness, complete lack of morality and flagrant dishonesty. And how they are roaring through Cambodia and other 3rd world countries setting up casinos and whorehouses and other premises of exploitation. These fuckers are out of control. And the few that travel abroad are the 'cream of the crop' too..so in short given the average Chinese would probably sell his Grandma for pet-food I can understand how the general populous needs to be kept on a leash until the whole country grows up a bit. My :2cents:

Apalling! I should investigate. If one were looking to find a casino and whorehouse in the same location, where would one travel?

DemonGeminiX
03-02-2019, 03:27 PM
:lol:

Hal-9000
03-02-2019, 05:21 PM
Never watched it. Any good?

Very good, all seasons :thumbsup:

Hal-9000
03-02-2019, 05:27 PM
I've been following China's control and monitoring of its citizens for some time. There's a whole other thread worth of material on the technology and facial recognition they use to track people everywhere they go. Real big brother zoomba!

At first I was appalled at the frightening and flagrant violation of human rights that we take for granted in the west. But then I've noticed how Chinese behave in Australia - particularly in a business sense...their near-sightedness, complete lack of morality and flagrant dishonesty. And how they are roaring through Cambodia and other 3rd world countries setting up casinos and whorehouses and other premises of exploitation. These fuckers are out of control. And the few that travel abroad are the 'cream of the crop' too..so in short given the average Chinese would probably sell his Grandma for pet-food I can understand how the general populous needs to be kept on a leash until the whole country grows up a bit. My :2cents:

Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel :lol:

I worked in a small mountain/skiing town in 1985. Came back here and continued on. During the ensuing 5-10 years each time I visited the Asian population on the streets was growing. Finally around 1993 you could barely walk down the main avenue without being swallowed in a sea of Asian folks.

I guess our government allowed investors to purchase businesses and even land. The town sits in a national park and I was always told no one could buy land there. It's a tourist town so every shop and restaurant is geared to what you mention above, how to make a better buck. I haven't visited for a few years now. Curious to see how many indigenous (white) faces are out there.

Muddy
03-02-2019, 05:46 PM
Never watched it. Any good?

One episode is about this very subject.. Its like the show predicts this shit..

Hal-9000
03-02-2019, 05:49 PM
One episode is about this very subject.. Its like the show predicts this shit..

That was a damn good episode (one with Bryce Dallas Howard).

Muddy
03-02-2019, 07:14 PM
The show was so intense that my wife and I would watch one episode and then talk about it for days before watching another.. It's too intense and a waste to just roll through them.. Some of them really rocked me..

Hal-9000
03-02-2019, 07:19 PM
The show was so intense that my wife and I would watch one episode and then talk about it for days before watching another.. It's too intense and a waste to just roll through them.. Some of them really rocked me..

Yep if you fear invasive tech or ideas, some of those episodes nailed the potential dark side of the future a little too well.

Godfather
03-02-2019, 07:28 PM
The show was so intense that my wife and I would watch one episode and then talk about it for days before watching another.. It's too intense and a waste to just roll through them.. Some of them really rocked me..

Agreed, some end on such a dark note that you have to watch something happier before bedtime :lol:

lost in melb.
03-03-2019, 12:31 AM
Apalling! I should investigate. If one were looking to find a casino and whorehouse in the same location, where would one travel?

:unimpressed:

Griffin
03-03-2019, 05:00 AM
I've been following China's control and monitoring of its citizens for some time. There's a whole other thread worth of material on the technology and facial recognition they use to track people everywhere they go. Real big brother zoomba!



like that would work with Chinese. :rolleyes:

lost in melb.
03-03-2019, 11:51 AM
like that would work with Chinese. :rolleyes:

:burn:

:lol:

Hal-9000
03-03-2019, 04:36 PM
That's racist! :lol: