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Teh One Who Knocks
03-26-2019, 12:30 PM
Bob Bryan - Business Insider


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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the freshman Democrat who has taken Congress by storm, recently advocated for a salary bump for Congress. But a majority of Americans actually want to see lawmakers' pay get cut.

Ocasio-Cortez first brought attention to the finances of lawmakers after the midterm elections with stories about her own financial struggles during the transition period between the election and the swearing-in of the new Congress.

The New York progressive again drew attention to the pay on Capitol Hill by announcing that staffers in her office would make at least $52,000, well above average.

In a tweet on March 13, Ocasio-Cortez went even further, arguing for an increase in lawmaker pay. Ocasio-Cortez said that "raising staffer pay helps get money out of politics" and that increasing the salaries for members of Congress could do the same.

"Members are paid more than avg - but job reqs 2 residences + we can't take tax deductions for work costs," Ocasio-Cortez tweeted. "No one wants to be the one to bring up increases, so instead ppl take advantage of insider trading loopholes & don't close them for the extra cash."

Ocasio-Cortez seems to have been responding in part to a rash of scandals involving members of Congress taking extra benefits. On the Republican side, Rep. Chris Collins was charged with insider trading and Rep. Duncan Hunter was accused of using $250,000 in campaign funds for personal expenses.

For Democrats, Sen. Bob Menendez was cleared of corruption charges in 2017 after being accused of accepting gifts from a wealthy doctor in exchange for political influence.

All three won reelection in 2018.

Also to Ocasio-Cortez's point, studies have shown that higher pay for government officials can reduce corruption and increase lawmakers' responsiveness to constituents.

But while the freshman representative may have an academic case to support the idea, the political case for boosting congressional salaries is not strong, according to a new INSIDER poll.

We asked people whether they thought Congress made too much, just enough, or too little. A majority of Americans disagreed with Ocasio-Cortez. We found that:


55% of respondents want congressional salaries to be cut. These people agreed with the statement, "I think that generally legislators are paid too much given the work they do, and their salaries should be cut or curtailed until their performance improves."
17% of respondents thought congressional salaries were just right. These people agreed with the statement, "I think the annual salary paid to Congress is just fine where it is."
9% of respondents want to increase congressional salaries. These people agreed with the statement, "Increasing the pay of members of Congress make them less susceptible to corruption by ensuring they're financially secure and don't need to abuse their office to make ends meet."

Nineteen percent of respondents were unsure or did not feel that any statement represented their view.

While a majority of Americans think members of Congress get paid too much, their concept of what Congress members already make is much lower than lawmakers' actual salaries. The poll then asked a fill-in-the-blank question, "In dollars, about how much money do you estimate a member of Congress earns in salary per year?"

The median guess for a Congress member's salary in the INSIDER survey was $132,500, well below the $174,000 lawmakers make. The trimmed average, which shaves off the lowest 5% and highest 5% of responses, similarly came in at $139,445.

Thirty-five percent of respondents estimated a number higher than the actual salary, while 64% guessed a number lower than $174,000.

So in addition to most Americans disagreeing with Ocasio-Cortez and thinking Congress should be paid less, the public thinks lawmakers already make less than their salaries.

SurveyMonkey Audience polls from a national sample balanced by census data of age and gender. Respondents are incentivized to complete surveys through charitable contributions. Generally speaking, digital polling tends to skew toward people with access to the internet. SurveyMonkey Audience doesn't try to weight its sample based on race or income. Total 1,178 respondents collected March 16-17, 2019, a margin of error plus or minus 3.07 percentage points with a 95% confidence level.

DemonGeminiX
03-26-2019, 12:43 PM
If you want more money, resign and get a better paying job elsewhere. :)

Griffin
03-26-2019, 12:44 PM
:shocker:

Muddy
03-26-2019, 01:04 PM
If you want more money, resign and get a better paying job elsewhere. :)

No one would have hired her in the private sector...

DemonGeminiX
03-26-2019, 01:26 PM
No one would have hired her in the private sector...

Strip bars and porn movie studios might. :shifty:

lost in melb.
03-26-2019, 01:29 PM
I'm beginning to get the idea that you guys don't respect this fine lady :-k

DemonGeminiX
03-26-2019, 01:34 PM
I'm beginning to get the idea that you guys don't respect this fine lady :-k

:lol:

Beginning? Really?

Muddy
03-26-2019, 01:37 PM
I'm beginning to get the idea that you guys don't respect this fine lady :-k

She's a wannabe socialist, hack, clueless child..

Teh One Who Knocks
03-26-2019, 01:39 PM
Give her more of your money! :x

DemonGeminiX
03-26-2019, 01:48 PM
:-s

Give me your money.

fricnjay
03-26-2019, 03:05 PM
Socialism, Socialism, Socialism! *starts making REAL money* Capitalism for me socialism for you. :tup:

Sounds legit

Teh One Who Knocks
03-26-2019, 04:13 PM
:-s

Give me your money.

You aren't a hard working politician trying to fight the man and the establishment all while setting a good example for the downtrodden everywhere :hand:

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 04:26 PM
People who complain about making 140k for one of the most white collar roles in the history of white collardom, filling their days with meetings and discussions and oh my...

..need to work a labor job making 15/hr, 5 days a week, 8 hours a day. You can't be late or miss a day, otherwise you get replaced.

Try to make rent on your 3000/mo NY loft doing that you whining little cow.

Teh One Who Knocks
03-26-2019, 04:29 PM
People who complain about making 140k for one of the most white collar roles in the history of white collardom, filling their days with meetings and discussions and oh my...

..need to work a labor job making 15/hr, 5 days a week, 8 hours a day. You can't be late or miss a day, otherwise you get replaced.

Try to make rent on your 3000/mo NY loft doing that you whining little cow.

And the best thing is, they don't work all year long. I bet the US Congress is in office and working less than half the year. And she's making $172K/year to do it.

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 04:34 PM
And the best thing is, they don't work all year long. I bet the US Congress is in office and working less than half the year. And she's making $172K/year to do it.

Our city council members make the same complaints and like most political entities, rarely show up on a full time basis for their jobs. People were polled and a resounding number voted to stop giving them raises :lol:


You've probably heard the stories. Representative Smith only showed up for 43% of the votes and these people still hold down great jobs with ample perks.

Teh One Who Knocks
03-26-2019, 05:36 PM
Our city council members make the same complaints and like most political entities, rarely show up on a full time basis for their jobs. People were polled and a resounding number voted to stop giving them raises :lol:


You've probably heard the stories. Representative Smith only showed up for 43% of the votes and these people still hold down great jobs with ample perks.

Oh yes, it's the same way here. At least half the time the members of congress, whether it be the reps or the senators, can't be bothered to even show up and vote on things.

And they are well paid to do nothing :|

https://i.imgur.com/hdSHuro.png

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 05:42 PM
If you ever wonder why I'm not enthralled with politics, just watch one of our parliamentary sessions in action. They slam table tops, interrupt incessantly and make derisive comments throughout every speaking portion. They walk out at times..

It's truly like petulant children who can't get their own way. It's no wonder nothing gets accomplished. It takes over 300 days just to acknowledge there's a problem up for discussion in the first place.

Teh One Who Knocks
03-26-2019, 05:58 PM
If you ever wonder why I'm not enthralled with politics, just watch one of our parliamentary sessions in action. They slam table tops, interrupt incessantly and make derisive comments throughout every speaking portion. They walk out at times..

It's truly like petulant children who can't get their own way. It's no wonder nothing gets accomplished. It takes over 300 days just to acknowledge there's a problem up for discussion in the first place.

Yeah, I've seen it with British parliament too, they do the same kinds of things. Here it's more grandstanding and bloviating than it is slamming desks and walking out. Although our politicians have no problem with talking over one another too.

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 06:04 PM
Yeah, I've seen it with British parliament too, they do the same kinds of things. Here it's more grandstanding and bloviating than it is slamming desks and walking out. Although our politicians have no problem with talking over one another too.

bloviating...nicely done and triple word forum score :thumbsup:

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 06:19 PM
in context:

That Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has beautiful eyes and a sexy mouth. I sure hope I find out just how sexy when she bloviates me :)

Teh One Who Knocks
03-26-2019, 06:28 PM
in context:

That Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has beautiful eyes and a sexy mouth. I sure hope I find out just how sexy when she bloviates me :)

:rapeculture:

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 06:31 PM
You're gonna see me on CNN in the background crowd when she's out on the street getting interviewed. I'll be the guy making the blowjob motions to the camera and getting hauled off by the police. You can say - Hey, I think I know that Canadian dude :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
03-26-2019, 06:31 PM
:shakehead:

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 06:34 PM
She's gonna spin out of control at one point in a very public way and be gone. Then in a few years y'all be looking back saying - I sure do miss AOC, she was a true idiot :(

Teh One Who Knocks
03-26-2019, 06:35 PM
She's gonna spin out of control at one point in a very public way and be gone. Then in a few years y'all be looking back saying - I sure do miss AOC, she was a true idiot :(

We definitely do need to appreciate her while we have her, because she will undoubtedly fade into obscurity just as fast as she rose to this level of notoriety.

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 06:38 PM
She is truly our political Star Trek : Discovery :tup:

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 06:38 PM
our...ffs stop brainwashing me!! :x

Teh One Who Knocks
03-26-2019, 06:42 PM
our...ffs stop brainwashing me!! :x

You and Lost are the ones infatuated with her :hand:

DemonGeminiX
03-26-2019, 06:46 PM
We definitely do need to appreciate her while we have her, because she will undoubtedly fade into obscurity just as fast as she rose to this level of notoriety.

She'll end up on Pornhub.

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 06:48 PM
You and Lost are the ones infatuated with her :hand:

No I said 'our' in reference to politics and I ain't no Americano :hand:

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 06:49 PM
is Americano a Spanish word?



:rofl: :dance:

Teh One Who Knocks
03-26-2019, 06:50 PM
No I said 'our' in reference to politics and I ain't no Americano :hand:

You're an honorary one :usa:

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 06:51 PM
She'll end up on Pornhub.

I think she has pics hidden somewhere. She's gotten enough compliments and is a child of the internet/social media.

I bet they come out when her mouth gets her into (more) trouble.

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 06:53 PM
You're an honorary one :usa:

I had a response to this but I enjoy the relationships with everyone here.


8-[

Teh One Who Knocks
03-26-2019, 06:55 PM
I had a response to this but I enjoy the relationships with everyone here.


8-[

:beatdown:

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 07:13 PM
:beatdown:

We have a Canadian song that describes my brotherly love for you. It goes like this...


https://i.imgur.com/Y2jroKp.jpg

Griffin
03-26-2019, 07:18 PM
:hand:Johnny's Arkansan.

Hal-9000
03-26-2019, 07:20 PM
:hand:Johnny's Arkansan.

My name is Sue! How do you do?!

Griffin
03-26-2019, 07:25 PM
is that a banana in your pocket?

Pony
03-26-2019, 11:15 PM
We definitely do need to appreciate her while we have her, because she will undoubtedly fade into obscurity just as fast as she rose to this level of notoriety.

Two years @ $174k/year and she will retire a multi millionaire.