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You're entitled to your opinion.

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Ahhh Shit!!

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Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX

Martin jumped Zimmerman from behind a bush. Martin started the fight. Martin may have felt provoked, but if someone provokes you, that doesn't give you the right to attack them. YOU WALK AWAY.

Zimmerman was NOT told by the police to not engage. He was told by 911 to back off. 911 is NOT the police. 911 has no authority to issue orders and you do not have to do what they say. They are there to help, but you're not obligated by law to follow their advice. If you disregard what they say, you are guilty of NOTHING.

Zimmerman was part of a neighborhood watch. He had a right to watch over his neighborhood. He saw Martin and thought Martin was suspicious, so he followed him. Martin turned on him. Martin hid behind a bush and waited for Zimmerman to attack him. He jumped him and got shot. Martin was a dumbass punk kid, and that's what got him killed.

If Martin confronted Zimmerman and said, "Yo, what's up? Why you following me, dog? My Dad lives over there. I belong here", then he'd probably still be alive today. If Martin ignored that he was being followed and kept walking back to his Dad's house, then he'd still be alive today. If Zimmerman had killed Martin during either of those two situations, then it would have been, point in fact, murder. But that's not what happened, was it?

- The law says you do not have the right to assault someone. Period, end of. Martin assaulted Zimmerman. Martin was in the wrong.
- The law doesn't say that you do not have the right to follow someone, unless you have a restraining order from that someone against you. Zimmerman had every right, even as an overzealous member of a neighborhood watch, to follow him.
- The law doesn't say you have to follow the suggestions of 911. If you do not follow the suggestions of 911, it does not imply intent.
- Florida law also says you have the right to use lethal force in defense of yourself, your property, and your family. Martin jumped Zimmerman and got the upper hand, and Zimmerman shot Martin in self defense.

You don't have to like it. You don't have to agree. Based on the events that took place and the law, the jury got it right.

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Originally Posted by Muddy

Actually most of your facts are based on Zimmermans account of events. I don't have the time to have a mock trial in here. I will say again how I feel best summarizes the events.


"He resisted some fuckin clown who had no authority and provoked him.. The kid was unarmed.. Zimmerman was told by the police not to engage. Big man with a gun got his ass kicked by a kid and couldn't handle it so he pulled out his little pop pop and shot the kid because the kid he provoked was getting the upper hand on him..

This is where I'm leaving it. :)

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I read a great story written by a cop who described following a suspect into an alley at night. He didn't know if the suspect had a gun, but knew the suspect had been violent.

Different situation than Zimmerman/Martin because of things like the stand your ground law and the ability for a civilian to use lethal force if their well being is in jeopardy.

But the cop gave the reader a very real idea of what it's like to be scared, even when you're the guy holding the gun and having supposed advantages during the situation.


Not siding either way on the Zimmerman case, because it conflicts with some of my beliefs and it supports others.

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Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX

Martin jumped Zimmerman from behind a bush. Martin started the fight. Martin may have felt provoked, but if someone provokes you, that doesn't give you the right to attack them. YOU WALK AWAY.

Zimmerman was NOT told by the police to not engage. He was told by 911 to back off. 911 is NOT the police. 911 has no authority to issue orders and you do not have to do what they say. They are there to help, but you're not obligated by law to follow their advice. If you disregard what they say, you are guilty of NOTHING.

Zimmerman was part of a neighborhood watch. He had a right to watch over his neighborhood. He saw Martin and thought Martin was suspicious, so he followed him. Martin turned on him. Martin hid behind a bush and waited for Zimmerman to attack him. He jumped him and got shot. Martin was a dumbass punk kid, and that's what got him killed.

If Martin confronted Zimmerman and said, "Yo, what's up? Why you following me, dog? My Dad lives over there. I belong here", then he'd probably still be alive today. If Martin ignored that he was being followed and kept walking back to his Dad's house, then he'd still be alive today. If Zimmerman had killed Martin during either of those two situations, then it would have been, point in fact, murder. But that's not what happened, was it?

- The law says you do not have the right to assault someone. Period, end of. Martin assaulted Zimmerman. Martin was in the wrong.
- The law doesn't say that you do not have the right to follow someone, unless you have a restraining order from that someone against you. Zimmerman had every right, even as an overzealous member of a neighborhood watch, to follow him.
- The law doesn't say you have to follow the suggestions of 911. If you do not follow the suggestions of 911, it does not imply intent.
- Florida law also says you have the right to use lethal force in defense of yourself, your property, and your family. Martin jumped Zimmerman and got the upper hand, and Zimmerman shot Martin in self defense.

You don't have to like it. You don't have to agree. Based on the events that took place and the law, the jury got it right.

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Just as well Zimmerman had a gun. Better to kill someone rather than maybe receiving a bit of a slap.

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Originally Posted by Hal-9000

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Originally Posted by The Monk

Better to kill someone rather than maybe receiving a bit of a slap.

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Oh hell yes.

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Originally Posted by The Monk

Just as well Zimmerman had a gun. Better to kill someone rather than maybe receiving a bit of a slap.

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A slap, bit or otherwise, is against the law. It's called assault and battery. You go to jail for it. And in Florida they have what is known as "Stand Your Ground" laws. If you try to start a fight with someone down there, you better be prepared to die, because people have the right to defend themselves with as much force as they deem necessary to neutralize the threat. And that's exactly the way it should be. And yes, you can do it with a gun, too.

Grow up, people. The world is not one big fucking playground.

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best entry in this entire thread...allow me to objectify :lol:

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:lol: Oblahblah totally did what he wanted to do ass well so get over it Chaka..