Germanwings co-pilot wanted to 'destroy the plane,' locked pilot out of cockpit, says prosecutor

FOX News and The Associated Press


The co-pilot of Germanwings 9525 had sole control of the doomed flight that crashed into the French Alps early Tuesday and appeared to want to "destroy the plane," a French prosecutor told The Associated Press.

The cockpit voice recorder, recovered on Wednesday from the rugged terrain north of Nice appeared to show the pilot clocked out of the cockpit and knocking on the door, first politely, then frantically in the moments before the jet, carrying 150 passengers and crew, began a rapid descent that killed all aboard.

Brice Robin, a Marseilles-based prosecutor told Reuters the evidence from the cockpit voice recorder, one of two "black boxes" and the only one recovered so far, seems to show the co-pilot, identified as Andreas Lubitz, refusing to open the cabin door as he began the descent "manually and intentionally."

The Airbus 320, which was en route from Barcelona to Dusseldorf, crashed into the mountain at 435 miles per hour, officials said. Germanwings, a low-budget carrier operated by Lufthansa, did not release the name of the pilot. Robin insisted in a news conference Thursday morning that Lubitz, a German from the central city of Montabaur, was not a terrorist.

"A terrorist?" he said in response to a question. "Absolutely not."

The airline said the captain had more than 6,000 hours of flying time and been Germanwings pilot since May 2014, having previously flown for Lufthansa and Condor, a German leisure airline. Lubitz, 28, joined Germanwings in September 2013, directly after training, and had flown 630 hours. Lufthansa chief executive Carsten Spohr described both pilots as "experienced and trained."

The plane was about halfway through its flight when it descended from a cruising altitude of 38,000 feet to around 6,000 feet in approximately eight minutes. During that time, whoever was in the cockpit did not respond to radio calls from French air traffic controllers, who alerted authorities when the plane disappeared from their radar screens.

Overnight, AFP reported that one of the cockpit seats was pushed back and the access door opened and closed. Moments later, a source told the agency that knocking could be heard, but there was no conversation between the pilots. The source added that an alarm warning of the plane's proximity to the ground could be heard just before impact.

The New York Times report cited a senior military official involved in the investigation who said the knocking grew increasingly frantic as the Airbus 320 plummeted to earth.

"The guy outside is knocking lightly on the door, and there is no answer," the investigator said. "And then he hits the door stronger, and no answer. There is never an answer ... You can hear he is trying to smash the door down."

The Wall Street Journal, citing Airbus training materials, reported that many Airbus jets are fitted with crew-controlled locks designed to prevent unauthorized access to the flight deck. In some planes, the cockpit can be accessed through a keypad code, but pilots can also lock out external access for five minutes or longer by flipping a certain switch in the cockpit.

The Daily Telegraph, citing the German newspaper Bild, reported that air traffic controllers had tried three times to contact the plane after a final communication from the captain was received at 10:30 a.m. local time. Seconds later, the plane began descending. Bild's report, which cited a purported leaked copy of a timeline compiled by the controllers, said that attempts were made to contact the plane at 10:31, 10:35, and 10:36, with the last two attempts made on the international distress frequency. At 10:40 a.m., the plane vanished from the radar.

Remi Jouty, the director of France's aviation accident investigation office, told reporters Wednesday that investigators had been able to extract sounds and voice from the damaged voice recorder, but cautioned "at this stage, we don’t have the slightest explanation or interpretation as to what led this plane to fly down."

Officials have not formally ruled out any possible cause of the crash, though France's Interior Minister said early Wednesday that he did not believe terrorism was the likely cause "at the moment." At his press conference Wednesday, Jouty told reporters that the small pieces of debris from the plane indicated that the jet was intact when it hit the ground and did not explode in midair.

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it even says on the airline's site that the a320s are never out of control of the ground systems. what part of fully automated satellite fly by wire is so easy to forget? on the a320, a pilot can easily and quickly be rendered completely unable to fly the plane.

two french fighter jets followed it to the crash scene and left as soon as the crash happened, and those reports were scrubbed within a day. (I dont know about you, but I think it would have made more sense for them to have stuck around and taken pictures or more closer observation of an aaaaaaaaccident, but hey, maybe that's just crazy talk.)

also snuffed out was the lone italian jet that issued a mayday call just before the plane began its descent, and then returned to base

in the a320, cockpit lockout only lasts 5 minutes.

:shrug: yeah, musta been some crazy nutter that wanted to off himself, despite enough people saying he was a happy guy and it was totally out of character.

how bad do the stories have to get before the public stops believing them :lol:


(I also had to laugh that they knew almost immediately that it was the copilot, despite not having even recovered the black boxes yet :rofl: see, the boeings have the uplink hidden in the passenger compartment floor, but the a320s its not in the same passenger floor compartment...)

they need a way to control the plane from a tower

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Originally Posted by Hal-9000

they need a way to control the plane from a tower

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:lol: fact of the matter is, the boeings that crashed into the WTCs had this capability - and a small section of pilots and engineers familiar with it were asking why it was not utilized. people seem to forget about the feb 01 patent that saw the technology put into some commercial planes.

this is fuggin 14 years later, standard fare on this aircraft.

they had a way to control it - and they did, right into the side of a mountain.

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:lol: fact of the matter is, the boeings that crashed into the WTCs had this capability - and a small section of pilots and engineers familiar with it were asking why it was not utilized. people seem to forget about the feb 01 patent that saw the technology put into some commercial planes.

this is fuggin 14 years later, standard fare on this aircraft.

they had a way to control it - and they did, right into the side of a mountain.

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Seriously? A flight tower can lock out pilot controls and fly the craft???


Then why the fuck wasn't it utilized in both the WTC attacks and this story?? :x

You still believe it wasn't orchestrated

:lol:

Hal, that's the point - it was utilized...in both cases.

Or was it just a coincidence that Marsh & McLennan (insurance...part of 911 was insurance scam also) were the owners of the floors of impact on both 1 & 2, and just so happened to contain datacenters at those locations...NAS, backup storage, etc...

you didnt forget about how enron was connected to this, did you?

sorry, there IS a shit ton of data.

and once any honest man makes his way through a sufficient amount of it,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbIv7W7rhx4

because there's such a staggering amount of shit, usually most people that realize it come across like that to someone that still believes in a fairy tale :lol:

Such a brilliant underrated movie

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Seriously? A flight tower can lock out pilot controls and fly the craft???


Then why the fuck wasn't it utilized in both the WTC attacks and this story?? :x

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I'm pretty sure the air traffic controllers themselves do not have the capability to do this. They have enough shit to do as it is. But it is 100% monitored in realtime and alarms go off to high fuggin hell if a plane deviates from its course or "the copilot locks out the captain and enters very secret codes that he knows even though he is only a junior pilot with a relatively small number of hours under his belt."

:lol: you seriously think they give those sorts of codes to a junior copilot with what, 600, a thousand hours flight time? :rofl: gimme a fuggin break, if someone believes that one!!!

cmon guys, I know for a fact they still taught critical thinking skills when we were in school. :razz:

I think the case is that each airline has their own department to monitor in real time, iirc.

also, not out of the question for something like an AWACS hijack, I mean, look who developed the technology to begin with...we'll have to see what they wind up saying, the airlines and such. if they were unable to do retrieve the aircraft then it was done by awacs - which was perhaps why they came up with the bullshit story about the copilot having used some secret code that there's no way he'd have legitimately had, not that they'd override ground control anyway. really the only way is to destroy the uplink, but they knew the pilot was trying to get at that, and that was used to explain the barricading the door bs story.

if "the copilot's breathing was normal all the way till the end," then he knew damned well what happened and there's no reason to panic, might as well go peacefully instead of screaming like the rest of the cowards. there was jack shit they could do about it .

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Originally Posted by FBD

I'm pretty sure the air traffic controllers themselves do not have the capability to do this. They have enough shit to do as it is. But it is 100% monitored in realtime and alarms go off to high fuggin hell if a plane deviates from its course or "the copilot locks out the captain and enters very secret codes that he knows even though he is only a junior pilot with a relatively small number of hours under his belt."

:lol: you seriously think they give those sorts of codes to a junior copilot with what, 600, a thousand hours flight time? :rofl: gimme a fuggin break, if someone believes that one!!!

cmon guys, I know for a fact they still taught critical thinking skills when we were in school. :razz:

I think the case is that each airline has their own department to monitor in real time, iirc.

also, not out of the question for something like an AWACS hijack, I mean, look who developed the technology to begin with...we'll have to see what they wind up saying, the airlines and such. if they were unable to do retrieve the aircraft then it was done by awacs - which was perhaps why they came up with the bullshit story about the copilot having used some secret code that there's no way he'd have legitimately had, not that they'd override ground control anyway. really the only way is to destroy the uplink, but they knew the pilot was trying to get at that, and that was used to explain the barricading the door bs story.

if "the copilot's breathing was normal all the way till the end," then he knew damned well what happened and there's no reason to panic, might as well go peacefully instead of screaming like the rest of the cowards. there was jack shit they could do about it .

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Okley dokley...that was my question mon frere :thumbsup:

if the pilot was hacking away at the satellite system, then the only appropriate place for the copilot would be at the seat, to take immediate action should the pilot have been successful

March 28 2015

Someone killed a big lie for me - the cockpit door!
Someone dredged this up from A320 user manuals, and it kills the official story.

A forward-opening hinge door separates the cockpit from the passenger compartment. It has three electric locking strikes, controlled by the flight crew. In normal conditions, when the door is closed, they remain locked. When there is a request to enter the cockpit, the flight crew can authorize entry by unlocking the door, that remains closed until it is pushed open.

When the flight crew does not respond to requests for entry, the door can also be unlocked by the cabin crew, by entering a two to seven-digit code (programmed by the airline) on the keypad, installed on the lateral side of the Forward Attendant Panel (FAP).

DEAR REMI, PLEASE ASSIST! WE NEED SOME MORE "TRUTH TELLING", PLEASE, WERE BOTH PILOTS SUICIDAL ALONG WITH EVERY STEWARDESS?

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Additionally, they are lying about the antidepressants. This pilot was not depressed and not taking psych meds. Absolutely nothing of substantive proof is out there about this, which means he simply was not taking them. EMPTY ZOLOFT BOX OR IT IS ALL B.S. But the clincher is THE COCKPIT DOOR, WHICH HAS A KEYPAD IN THE PASSENGER COMPARTMENT THAT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE PILOTS TO LOCK ANYONE OTHER THAN A PROSPECTIVE HIJACKER AND PASSENGERS OUT. THE ENTIRE CABIN CREW HAS THE PASSWORD AS WELL AS THE PILOTS AND CAN GET IN EVEN IF THE PILOTS KEEP THE DOOR LOCKED FROM THE COCKPIT SIDE. This proves Remi lied lied LIED, why and HOW did he lie?


"When the flight crew does not respond to requests for entry, the door can also be unlocked by the cabin crew, by entering a two to seven-digit code (programmed by the airline) on the keypad, installed on the lateral side of the Forward Attendant Panel (FAP)".
MATT DRUDGE, I AM CALLING YOU OUT. IF YOU REALLY ARE MISSING THIS YOU NEED A CRANIAL ENEMA. DITTO FOR ANYONE ELSE WHO CLAIMS TO REPORT THE TRUTH. Even if you don't believe the remote control capabilities, it is NOW PROVEN THAT THE SUICIDE PILOT STORY IS A BIG FAT LIE, they faked the recording, that is all there is to it and to keep parroting that lie is FRAUD. YOU HAVE A FRAUDULENT WEB SITE DRUDGE. YOU REPORT LIES, THE A320 OPERATOR MANUAL PROVES IT.
And what other time was there a proven fake recording made for a plane crash? Why, the call from Cee Cee Lyle, flight 93, on 911.
CeeCee's call sets a STARK precedent here:

Permanent: 911 Flight 93 phone call busted. CeeCee Lyle read her arab incriminating yet fully scripted phone call from the ground, in a call center, and if you listen to the call, you can hear her coach say "that was great!" after she finishes speaking. You can also hear a coach or manager say "allright" in the background of the enhanced version, and AFTER THAT you can hear her coach say "sorry" for saying "that was great" too loud and possibly having it be audible in the message. CeeCee Lyle flight 93 911 phone call enhanced and original This kills the entire arab/911 meme, obviously the calls were faked. But that won't do it for Drudge, BET ON IT!

re:Cee Cee Lyle's call (s)

What goal would a 'coach' or 'manager' have with making a flight attendant perform a 'scripted' call? They've proven the first call came from an airphone (seatback phone).

So she makes the scripted call, they 'plant her license' at the crash site and then what? Kill her?? Make her live on a island for the rest of her life and pay her millions? What is the goal of doing this?????? :lol:

I've listened to a few different versions and the muffled phrase or interference or reverbed phrase sounds like ....that was great...it's a frame...play the game....or the MORE LIKELY phrase saying - "see your face again babe"....her actual last words of the call :thumbsup:

yeah, the NIST "proved" that there was no way thermite could cut steel, too :lol: what's "proved"...what you are told is fact? they "proved" global warming too, in case you forgot - only, with that one, there's more than a handful of people interested in the truth there. cmon Hal, if it was the other end of the line saying see your face again babe then it would have sounded like it was on the call instead of sitting 3 feet away.





and another false flag gets shuffled off to where we can safely not have to look at it :lol:


I find that rather offensive that you are all given proof of this, and there's still a question.


FACT: NO ONE was locked out of the cockpit, BECAUSE IF YOU ENTER THE ACCESS CODE FROM THE KEYPAD TO GET IN, A LOUD BEEP CAN BE HEARD IN THE COCKPIT and that is something ANYONE would try before grabbing an axe. Even if the copilot wanted everyone locked out, he could not have stopped that beeping, and instead of BEEPING, REMI TALKS ABOUT BREATHING
FACT: The co pilot's breathing was not picked up by the flight recorder because the cockpit is so loud that pilots HAVE TO wear headsets TO GET OVER THE NOISE. If you want to hear the pilot next to you clearly you have to use a headset. The first generation A320 has a cockpit plagued by wind noise that would have made it completely impossible for any recorder to pick up the sound of a man breathing.
FACT: BOLD FACED LIE BY REMI: Remi claims the descent started when the co pilot hit a button THAT BEEPED to start the descent, WHEN IN REALITY, those controls are silent and make no noise at all.
FACT: There is no way the memory could be missing from the flight data recorder unless someone removed it after the crash.
FACT: The villain was named WAY TOO SOON for a legitimate investigation




wtf is wrong with people :lol:

:facepalm:

Didn't hear an answer to my question :rolleyes:....you can bring in all the supposition and theory you want on a recorded 9/11 phone call, but at the end of the day, that's all it is. Supposition based on a recorded phone message. Your 'proof' are theories only, not based on any established fact.

Same with the German airplane and cockpit 'facts'....there's talk about beeps and breathing and whether a person could get into the cockpit using a keypad. Not one of us was there, at that moment, behind the cockpit in that plane. And wind noise is used as an excuse for a recorder not picking up the sound of a man breathing...in a cockpit??? Really??????


:lol: wake up sheeple, you're making extremely thin arguments for irrelevant instances, just to suit your theory...rather than looking at evidence with an impartial eye.