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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    The market will rebound. The economy is healthy. The only reason stock prices are falling now is because of fear. It'll pass.
    The west is long overdue for a correction. too much debt (nothing personal against the US)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    The west is long overdue for a correction. too much debt (nothing personal against the US)
    The FED will tank the dollar to save the stocks and the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    The FED will tank the dollar to save the stocks and the economy.
    No they won't. They're not gonna have to.


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    Tom Steyer and Gay Mayor Pete are both out.

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    Gay Pete probably realized that he couldn't win in the South.


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    He had to know going it, they dont take well to the gays






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    Amy Klobuchar has called it quits and says she's going to endorse Creepy Uncle Joe.

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    Gay Mayor Pete says he's going to endorse Creepy Uncle Joe too. They're all getting out to get behind Uncle Joe so they can try and stop Bernie from getting the nomination.

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    O'Rourke endorses Biden at Dallas rally on eve of Super Tuesday, as ex-VP appears to offer gun-control role

    By Gregg Re, Samuel Chamberlain | Fox News




    In a surprise moment at the end of his Dallas rally on the eve of Super Tuesday, former Vice President Joe Biden called former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke up to the stage -- and vowed to put O'Rourke, who has said the government should forcibly seize assault rifles from Americans, in charge of gun-control efforts.

    Also at the rally, Biden accepted the endorsements of onetime rivals Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar, as the Democratic party's moderate wing rallied behind Biden to challenge anti-establishment frontrunner and self-described "democratic socialist" Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.

    "Ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow, March 3, 2020, I will be casting my ballot for Joe Biden," O'Rourke announced to applause at the rally's conclusion.

    O'Rourke called President Trump an "existential threat" to "free and fair elections," and urged rallygoers to view Biden as the "antithesis of Donald Trump," someone who is "decent, kind, caring, and empathetic."

    Biden, taking the microphone after O'Rourke spoke, then announced, "I want to make something clear -- I'm gonna guarantee you, this is not the last you're seeing of this guy -- you're gonna take care of the gun problem with me, you're gonna be the one who leads this effort. I'm counting on you, I'm counting on you, we need you badly."

    O'Rourke has previously said he would like to seize all Americans' AR-15 assault rifles, promising: "Hell, yes, we're going to take your AR-15, your AK-47," at a Democratic primary debate last year, shortly before his campaign collapsed.

    "Yikes," remarked Trump campaign spokesman Andrew Clark.

    "Joe Biden promises Beto O'Rourke, who pushed for gun confiscation for legal gun owners, will 'be the one who leads' his gun control effort," observed GOP Rapid Response Director Steve Guest. "2020 Democrats are unambiguous about their anti-Second Amendment agenda."

    Wrote NBC News' Benjy Sarlin: "Biden hugging Beto going 'You’re going to take care of the gun problem for me!' is a thing you will see in a Republican ad someday."

    The moment was yet another headache for Biden as he struggles to appeal to gun owners. Last week, he bizarrely declared that "150 million" Americans -- approximately half the country -- had died due to gun violence since 2007.



    Separately, Biden spent most of his time attacking President Trump, rather than his remaining rivals Elizabeth Warren, Sanders and Mike Bloomberg.

    After Sen. Klobuchar, D-Minn., spoke earlier in the rally, Biden immediately sought to draw a contrast between her and Trump, saying the White House entirely lacks "empathy and decency."



    "Folks, I knew -- I believed that he wasn't going to be a very good president," Biden said. "But I have to admit to you that Donald Trump, well, I didn't have any idea how much it was always going to be about Donald Trump. It's having a corrosive impact. It's having a corrosive impact on our children."

    Biden continued: "The days of Donald Trump's divisiveness will soon be over. Folks, there's two ways people get inspired. They get inspired by great leaders like Lincoln and Roosevelt and Kennedy and Obama, but they also get inspired by very bad leaders. No, I really mean it. This president has sort of ripped the band-aid off, exposed just how venal he's become, and how he has literally strangled the life out of the Republican Party."

    At the same time, in Minnesota, Sanders and top surrogate Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar were rallying a boisterous crowd at a competing rally. Within hours, 14 states and one U.S. territory will head to the polls in contests that will award a whopping one-third of total delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

    "It looks like St. Paul is ready for a political revolution," Sanders said to cheers.



    At the rally in delegate-rich Texas, however, Biden and his new supporters argued that most voters want "evolution" and not a drastic change. Buoyed by his emphatic victory in Saturday's South Carolina primary, Biden has argued he's the only candidate who can realistically win over minority support and defeat Trump.

    Klobuchar, who formally suspended her campaign earlier Monday, declared that Biden was the only sensible choice for voters who feel "tired of the noise and the nonsense" of today's politics.

    "How great is it to be here in Dallas, Texas?" Klobuchar asked. "And how great it is to be here with my family. ... And with Vice President Biden! And how wonderful it is to be standing next to him on a stage when it isn't the debate stage?" (Biden later joked that Klobuchar had "won all the debates.")



    It's time, Klobuchar said, for Americans to "join hands instead of pointing fingers."

    "We need to unite our party and our country, and to do it not just with our words but with our actions," Klobuchar continued. "It is up to us, all of us, to put our country back together, to heal this country, and then to build something even greater. I believe we can do this together. And that is why, today, I am ending my campaign and endorsing Joe Biden for president."

    Klobuchar and Biden then hugged as cheers of "Let's go, Joe!" broke out. Later, Klobuchar noted that Minnesota was also voting on Tuesday, and urged voters there to support Biden as well, amid concerns that her sudden withdrawal might actually help Sanders win the state.

    Biden went on to thank Buttigieg for his endorsement earlier in the day as well. Speaking to supporters, Biden said Pete reminded him of his late son Beau during the debates -- a compliment Biden then falsely said he had not made before about any other politician.

    "I’m looking for a leader, I’m looking for a president, who will draw out what’s best in each of us,” Buttigieg, who ended his campaign Sunday, told reporters prior to the rally. “We have found that leader in vice president, soon-to-be president, Joe Biden.”

    In Minnesota, Sanders praised both Buttigieg and Klobuchar even as the two were in Texas to boost Biden.



    "Tonight, I want to open the door to Amy's supporters, to Pete's supporters," he said. "I know there are political differences, but I also know that virtually all of Amy's supporters and Pete's supporters understand that we've got to move toward a government that believes in justice, not greed."

    "I’ve known Amy for a very long time, and she is one of the hardest workers I know," Sanders said of Klobuchar before going on to call Buttigieg's campaign "historic" and "brave," noting that Buttigieg would have been the first openly gay president.

    Biden currently trails Sanders by just eight pledged delegates (56 to 48) in the race to get the 1,991 necessary to secure the Democratic party's nomination at this summer's convention in Milwaukee. Party leaders had feared that the splintering moderate vote would allow Sanders to rack up victories in a series of high-stakes Super Tuesday contests and possibly gain an insurmountable advantage in the delegate count.

    However, former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has resisted calls to clear the path for Biden, predicting Monday that Democrats would have a contested convention.

    "The most likely scenario for the Democratic Party is no one has a majority -- it goes to a convention where there's horse-trading; there's compromise," Bloomberg said at a Fox News town hall in Manassas, Va., one of the states where voters will head to the polls Tuesday. "It doesn't even have to be the leading candidate; it could be the one with a smaller number of delegates."

    Despite his endorsements and win by a massive margin in South Carolina's primary on Saturday, Biden remains vulnerable on a variety of fronts, including his repeated gaffes. On Monday, he slipped up twice during an earlier rally -- at one point, badly garbling the Declaration of Independence before giving up, and at another, saying "Super Thursday" was coming up.

    And, although the Biden campaign reported back-to-back days of $5 million fundraising hauls following his South Carolina win, the former vice president has struggled to raise money more broadly.

    In Silicon Valley, which dominated by the tech sector, many wealthy donors prioritize executing a data-driven plan -- and Biden’s rocky campaign pushed many toward Buttigieg or Bloomberg in recent months, financiers say.

    Biden's team is waging a quiet campaign to win them over, yet many are taking a wait-and-see approach.

    At Monday's gaffe-riddled rally, Biden notably didn't take any shots at Bloomberg and instead aimed his barbs at Sanders -- in an apparent sign that Bloomberg isn't viewed as a significant threat.

    For his part, as midnight approached, Trump weighed in on Twitter to make clear he felt Biden's misstatements were very much a liability.

    "WOW!" Trump wrote. "Sleepy Joe doesn’t know where he is, or what he’s doing. Honestly, I don’t think he even knows what office he's running for!"

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    Super Tuesday leaves Biden, Sanders in airtight fight for delegates, brokered convention looming

    By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News




    Get ready for a long and grueling road ahead as Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders battle for the Democratic presidential nomination in a race that could possibly result in the country’s first contested major-party nominating convention in well over a half-century.

    The former vice president, surging to victory in the five southern Super Tuesday states and beyond, crowed to supporters at a primary celebration speech in Los Angeles after most of the results were in.

    “I’m here to report that we are very much alive," Biden told a cheering crowd. "This campaign is taking off.”

    Hours later, the Associated Press projected Biden the winner in Texas - which had the second-largest cache of delegates on Super Tuesday.

    But Sanders, the populist senator from Vermont who’s making his second straight White House run, won California – the biggest prize on a day when one-third of all Democratic presidential convention delegates were up for grabs.

    “Tonight I tell you with absolute confidence we’re going to win the Democratic nomination,” Sanders, the self-proclaimed democratic socialist lawmaker, predicted as he spoke to supporters in his home state of Vermont.

    Now the race – essentially a two-candidate contest – advances through a calendar that provides promise and peril for both Biden and Sanders.

    Biden – once the unrivaled front-runner for the nomination – was wounded after a lackluster fourth-place finish in Iowa’s caucuses and a disappointing fifth-place showing in New Hampshire’s primary. But a slight rebound in Nevada’s caucuses – where he came in a distant second to Sanders – was followed this past weekend with a landslide victory in South Carolina’s primary.

    Biden on Tuesday night spotlighted his comeback, which came in large part thanks to his popularity among African-American voters.

    "To those who’ve [been] knocked down, counted out, left behind, this is your campaign," Biden told supporters. "Just a few days ago the press and the pundits had declared the campaign dead.”

    “It may be over for the other guy,” Biden added, referring to Sanders.

    Mission accomplished

    Biden’s goal going into Super Tuesday was to stay close to Sanders in the delegate hunt and cement his status as the moderate alternative to the progressive senator. It appeared to be a mission accomplished.

    Fox News contributor and former Democratic National Committee chairwoman Donna Brazile termed Biden’s comeback "the most impressive 72 hours I've ever seen in U.S. politics."

    That comeback was fuled by a tidal wave of establishment consolidation behind Biden over the past three days, which included rival moderate candidates Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg dropping out of the race and endorsing the former vice president.

    But with his victory in California, Sanders was also exuberant on Tuesday night.

    “I am excited about where we are. We have come a long, long way," said Sanders, once the longest of longshots when he launched his first White House bid four years ago.



    The next tests for the candidates will come next Tuesday, when voters in six states -- Idaho, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota and Washington state -- head to the polls, and on St. Patrick's Day, March 17, when Arizona, Florida, Illinois and Ohio have their say. Then Georgia will hold a primary March 24.

    What next for Bloomberg?

    Former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg tried to put a pretty picture on what turned into a disappointing evening.

    “As the results come in, no matter how many delegates we win, we’ve done something nobody thought was possible. We’ve gone from 1 percent to being a contender for Democratic nomination,” Bloomberg told supporters gathered in Florida.



    Hours earlier the multibillionaire business and media mogul -- who’s spent more than a half-billion dollars of his own money on his White House bid -- boasted he had “no intention of dropping out.”

    Bloomberg – who was the ballot for the first time Tuesday after skipping the four early voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina in order to concentrate on the delegate-rich Super Tuesday states and beyond -- acknowledged that the possibility of a contested Democratic nominating convention in July in Milwaukee was his only pathway to becoming the party’s standard-bearer.

    “I don't think I can win any other way," he said.

    Tuesday night, when asked if the results changed Bloomberg’s thinking about the race ahead, campaign manager Kevin Sheekey re-emphasized that “every day the campaign is re-evaluating.”

    Longtime Democratic strategist Bill Burton argued that Bloomberg’s winning of a handful of delegates in California and Texas may have prevented Biden from “locking up the nomination tonight by winning California and Texas.”

    Burton – a veteran of the 2004 John Kerry presidential campaign and the 2008 Barack Obama campaign who later co-founded the Priorities USA super PAC after serving as a White House deputy press secretary – suggested that Bloomberg “could help the cause by dropping out and focusing on the issues that matter in the country.”

    Warren blames pundits

    It was also a very tough night for Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who came in third to Biden and Sanders in her adopted home state of Massachusetts -- and was projected to finish fourth in her native Oklahoma.

    Warren – a one-time co-front-runner with Biden – has suffered one disappointing finish after another since the start of the nominating calendar. She took direct hits at media pundits during a speech to supporters in Michigan.

    “What I see happening is a lot of folks trying to turn voting into some complicated strategy. You know, pundits, friends, neighbors are all saying you have to second-guess yourself on this. They're playing games about prediction and strategy, you know, guess what your neighbors are up to here. But prediction has been a terrible business, and the pundits have gotten it wrong, over and over,” she emphasized.

    Just as Bloomberg will now face calls from establishment Democrats to depart the race and support Biden, some progressives are taking aim a Warren for peeling off some support for Sanders.

    Sanders supporter Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota took a thinly veiled shot at Warren late Tuesday.

    Omar, who a night earlier appeared onstage in Minnesota with Sanders, questioned what would have happened if “progressives consolidated last night like the moderates consolidated.”

    "Who would have won?" Omar tweeted about that scenario. “That’s what we should be analyzing. I feel confident a united progressive movement would have allowed for us to #BuildTogether and win MN and other states we narrowly lost.”

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    Tulsi got a delegate last night from American Samoa. Just one.


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    Not too bad for old Mini Mike...figures say he spent approximately $500 million (give or take) so far on his campaign so that means those 37 delegates only cost him just more than $13.5 million/each

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    Fail Joe Biden botches Declaration of Independence quote

    By Bradford Betz | Fox News




    Former Vice President Joe Biden appeared to fumble Monday while attempting to recite part of the Declaration of Independence during a speech in Texas.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident. All men and women are created, by the, you know, you know the thing,” Biden said.

    The actual line is: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    Later in the speech, Biden mistook “Super Tuesday” for “Super Thursday.”

    Biden has long been known for his gaffes during speeches. Last week Biden accidentally told supporters he was a Democratic candidate for the “United States Senate.”

    But Monday’s flub came amid a major boost in Biden’s campaign for the 2020 presidential election. Following his victory in the South Carolina Democratic primary on Saturday, Biden earned endorsements from fellow rivals Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg after they dropped out from the race.

    Both Buttigieg and Klobuchar are expected to join Biden at a rally in Texas Monday night, the Dallas Morning News reported.

    The Democratic Party’s moderate wing has been coalescing around Biden out of fear that Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., a polarizing progressive, was positioned to seize a significant delegate lead on Super Tuesday.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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    I'm telling you... This guy has gone over the hill with his age.. He is unfit. ^

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