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    https://www.thecentersquare.com/nati...5a60db758.html

    "The Dominion Voting Systems, which has been used in multiple states where fraud has been alleged in the 2020 U.S. Election, was rejected three times by data communications experts from the Texas Secretary of State and Attorney General’s Office for failing to meet basic security standards."

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    https://nonperele.com/researchers-qu...tems-software/

    Some of the most popular ballot-marking machines, made by Election Systems & Software and Dominion Voting Systems, register votes in bar codes that the human eye cannot decipher,” according to a February report by Associated Press.
    But according to researchers, that’s a problem, as “voters could end up with printouts that accurately spell out the names of the candidates they picked, but, because of a hack, the bar codes do not reflect those choices.”
    “Because the bar codes are what’s tabulated, voters would never know that their ballots benefited another candidate,” the report adds.
    State and local officials had reportedly rushed to replace old voting systems with the new software ahead of the 2020 presidential election out of fear of “unreliable electronic voting machines” in the wake of so-called “Russia’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential race.”

    The report continued:
    Officials tell voters to verify their selections on a paper ballot before feeding it into an optical scanner. But the scanner doesn’t record the text that voters see; rather, it reads an unencrypted quick response, or QR, barcode that is indecipherable to the human eye. Either by tampering with individual voting machines or by infiltrating the state’s central elections server, hackers could systematically alter the barcodes to change votes.
    Such a manipulation could not be detected without an audit after the election.
    The new voting system “presents serious security vulnerability and operational issues” caused by “fundamental deficits and exposure,” U.S. District Judge Amy Totenberg wrote in a recent order, in which she criticized state officials for not taking the problems more seriously.
    “These risks,” Totenberg wrote, “are neither hypothetical nor remote under the current circumstances.”


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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/chi...ggest-n1104516

    Chinese parts, hidden ownership, growing scrutiny: Inside America's biggest maker of voting machines
    Scrutiny of the U.S. election system, spurred by Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, has put Election Systems & Software in the political spotlight.

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    cmon Lance, put that bet up before Muddy sees enough evidence and changes his mind
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    Wisconsin Election Commission Might Have Violated State Law By Allowing Clerks To ‘Fix’ Ballots, Report Says

    By Hank Berrien - The Daily Wire




    A new report points out that an executive branch agency called the Wisconsin Election Commission allowed local county election clerks to “fix” ballots by filling in missing addresses for witnesses, and that might have violated a Wisconsin law requiring ballots to have a witness address to be validated.

    Wisconsin Statute 6.87(6d) states unequivocally, “If a certificate is missing the address of a witness, the ballot may not be counted.”

    But in August, the Wisconsin Elections Commission issued a directive stating that a clerk could fill in the address of the voter:

    To make sure your ballot is counted, double check the following before you return it: Your voter information: this section is usually completed by your clerk and includes the date of the election, the county and municipality in which you are registered, your name, the address where you are registered, city, and zip code. Voter Signature: you (or your assistant) must sign in the Certification of Voter section. Witness Signature and Address: your witness must sign and provide their full address, (street number, street name, city) in the Certification of Witness section. Make sure your ballot is in your envelope and make sure the envelope is sealed properly.

    If any of the required information above is missing, your ballot will not be counted.

    In October, the Wisconsin Elections Commission issued a directive to the state’s county clerks that seemed to allow them to fix incomplete (or “spoiled”) ballots missing witness signatures, writing, “Please note that the clerk should attempt to resolve any missing witness address information prior to Election Day if possible and this can be done through reliable information (personal knowledge, voter registration information, through a phone call with the voter or witness). The witness does not need to appear to add a missing address.”

    Derek Muller, a professor of law at the Iowa School of Law, told Just The News, “This is a complication thing about elections like this. I’ve seen it in a lot of jurisdictions, what might be sort of a technical violation of the statute, in this case encouragement to county clerks about how to use their judgment on whether or not to cure a ballot.”

    Retired Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman told WISN, “The statute is very, very clear. If an absentee ballot does not have a witness address on it, it’s not valid. That ballot is not valid.”

    “In defiance of and direct contradiction to the statute, the Wisconsin Elections Commission gave guidance — that is, cover —to all 72 county clerks and turned the statute on his head,” said Gableman. “They said, ‘Gee, we know the law says an absentee ballot without the witness address is not valid, but county clerk, you have a duty to go ahead and look up on your own the witness’ address if there’s no address on the absentee ballot.’”

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    and they apparently only fixed the democrat ballots

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    perhaps there's hope for aussies after all


    but like everywhere else, yall will need to have your government unglobalisted before there's any real change
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    Its all over the world, Marie Le Pen "lost" for this same reason, brexit was delayed so many times for this reason


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    How Might Election Fraud Get Litigated?

    A Deep Dive into Donohue v. Board of Elections of State of New York

    https://macris.substack.com/p/how-mi...-get-litigated

    Question 1: Can a lawsuit even be filed against state or municipal agencies, or are the agencies immune from suit under 42 USC 1983? The Court answered yes, a suit can be filed:
    Question 2: Has an individual’s right to vote been violated under the 14th Amendment if they got to cast their ballot, but the ballot was later changed, debased, or diluted by fraud? The Court answered yes:
    Question 3: What sort of election irregularity give rise to an equal protection claim? Here, the Donohue Court gives a long and detailed answer:
    The Donohue court has thus laid out the legal test that the plaintiff must meet. He must plead and prove

    specific acts of misconduct,

    involving ‘willful or knowing’ ballot fraud,

    by state officials or private persons acting jointly with state officials,

    that changed the outcome of the election.
    Question 4: If the plaintiff does prove its case, can the Court actually order a new Presidential election? The Donohue court says - surprise - YES
    Question 5: Can expert opinion and statistical analysis be used as evidence to prove ballot fraud? The Donohue Court says, again, YES.
    Question 5: Can expert opinion and statistical analysis be used as evidence to prove ballot fraud? The Donohue Court says, again, YES.
    In sum, the plaintiffs have failed to prove that specific acts of fraud were performed by persons acting under color of state law, or that the irregularities in the voting, if eliminated from the final tally, would have changed the result.
    Let’s summarize what we’ve learned:

    The Federal Courts do have jurisdiction to resolve claims of state and city ballot fraud that causes ballot dilution, even in Presidential elections.

    The Federal Courts can order a new election if necessary to address fraud, even in Presidential elections

    The Trump campaign will need to prove (a) specific acts of misconduct (b) involving willful or knowing ballot fraud (c) by state officials or private persons acting with state officials (d) that changed the outcome of the election.

    The Trump campaign can use expert testimony and statistical evidence to prove its case, but it needs some direct evidence too. (Remember that in a court of law, eyewitness testimony is considered direct evidence.)
    Caveat: It’s important to note that we’ve done a deep dive into just a single Federal District Court case from 1976. A NY District Court ruling isn’t binding on other District Courts in other states, and could be ignored or overruled by SCOTUS.

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    so which thread is gonna stay

    Quote Originally Posted by Teh One Who Knocks View Post
    >Phizer refuses Operation Warp Speed funds because it required them not to make a profit off the vaccine
    >Phizer knows Trump will nationalize their vaccine if they tried to profit
    >so they wait 1 week after the election to drop news
    >have multi-billion dollar contracts with federal government and Pentagon

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBD View Post

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    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ng-mail-ballot
    "It Defies Logic": Scientist Finds Telltale Signs Of Election Fraud After Analyzing Mail-In Ballot Data

    any honest look at the data and there's no way one concludes what the TV did
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBD View Post
    so which thread is gonna stay
    They're both going to stay. This thread is specifically labeled as a Serious Discusion thread at the behest of the OP. The other thread is for anything else, random discussion or anything .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh One Who Knocks View Post
    They're both going to stay. This thread is specifically labeled as a Serious Discusion thread at the behest of the OP. The other thread is for anything else, random discussion or anything .
    ok...I'm kinda ambivalent about the answer to that question, I was just trying to be goof friendly and keep everything to 1 thread, they seem to overlap a bunch anyway

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