Mike Pence just totally dissed the media after his White House briefing this evening, grabbed his stuff and walked away as they screamed their questions.
Serves them right for the lack of respect they've shown the White House. Talking over and cutting off people during interviews and other briefings. Reap what you sow bitches.
It's all bullshit.
Of the 30 lawsuits, all of them have been either dropped or thrown out of court. But, on TV, Guliani says the opposite and rehashes all the bogus allegations. What Team Trump is trying to do is cast doubt about the integrity of the election in the hopes that the state secretaries of state in critical states will disgregard the popular vote and allow Team Trump to install his own electors. THAT is the strategy because he has failed in courts of law.
Well, there hasn't been 30 lawsuits only 3 and they only dropped 1 of the 2 in Michigan.
...but you keep drinking that koolaid.
We obviously live in two alternate universes. I've been following closely the different lawsuits, court transcripts ect.Originally Posted by Griffin
Did you see the one yesterday where Giuliani was asked in court is this fraud? and he had to reply "this is not about fraud". In front of the camera next day:" mass fraud"
But they probably don't mention this on Trump's Twitter feed and right wing echo chamber media
Did you watch the Sky News link I left?
or does Alan Jones not report what you want to hear.
FBD (11-20-2020)
I'll just leave this one here for the Aussies to see.
A quote half way down the page-
Wesley g 1 day ago--"If there was a civil war that broke out between the parties you would want to be on Trumps side because dead people suck at fighting."Trey Trainor, huh? You mean the Republican lawyer?
Fact check: Federal Election Commission chair has no role in election integrity.
P.s., Alan Jones is a right-wing Murdoch Media hack. Nice try, buddy
Last edited by lost in melb.; 11-20-2020 at 03:09 AM.
Like I said, all bullshit, all tossed out of court. What really counts is what happens in court not people making speeches on right-wing media.
So now that I took the time, i ask that you respond to what I said.
Why are republican lawyers including Giuliani, calling fraud, fraud and then when they get to court change their minds about accusations of fraud?
Second: why aren't you aware of these legal cases?
Third: why aren't you interesting in hearing about this stuff?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...loyal-electors
Right on cue. Like clockwork...
Donald Trump is scheduled to meet with Michigan Republican state legislators at the White House as he steps up a desperate bid to undermine the election that he lost decisively to President-elect Joe Biden. According to the New York Times, “Trump contacted the Republican majority leader in the Michigan State Senate to issue the invitation,” though it's unclear how many lawmakers will be heading to Washington. Some members of Trump’s team have “promoted the legally dubious theory that friendly legislators could under certain scenarios effectively subvert the popular vote and send their own, pro-Trump delegations to the Electoral College,” notes the Times
Alan Jones is a rabid far-right commentator and is not worth watching.I'll just leave this one here for the Aussies to see.
A quote half way down the page-
Wesley g 1 day ago--"If there was a civil war that broke out between the parties you would want to be on Trumps side because dead people suck at fighting."
As for the bloke being interviewed, how on earth from that video can he tell voter fraud? Conspiracists will see what they want to see - the courts in the US don't seem to agree with any of this continual fraud bullshit and cases are being thrown out as quick as they get in.
Key events
2 hours ago - Georgia recount is complete, Biden reaffirmed as winner
1 hour ago - Georgia projected for Joe Biden
7 hours ago - Team Trump withdraws Michigan lawsuit, but the President isn't done here
lost in melb. (11-20-2020)
I give up on trying to communicate with you. I'll (try) and wait until the fool finally concedes that he doesn't have a leg to stand on. Maybe you'll still be here - maybe you'll have had a complete breakdown and committed to an asylum....no, no its not. it was poorly informed two years ago, now its as stale as potato chips with the bag left open for a week straight.
Donald Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani delivered a rambling monologue Thursday meant to reveal evidence for a 'massive' vote fraud where he quoted 'My Cousin Vinny' and claimed he had 'hundreds' of sworn affidavits as evidence that he would not share - because, he claimed, it would put his witnesses' lives at risk.
The last time he held a press conference was at Four Seasons Total Landscaping in northern Philadelphia, making the RNC's packed conference room at least an upgrade. And this time there were no known sex offenders on stage with him.
Instead there was a self-styled 'elite strike-force team working on behalf of the president' who outlined a conspiracy which wove together Hugo Chavez; China; Venezuela; Cuba; the Clinton Foundation; George Soros; testimony found 'on the internet'; ballots which arrived in trucks; New Jersey voters who crossed the Camden; 'hack' judges; vote counters in Germany and Spain; Democratic political machines just like Mayor Daley in the 1960s; the 'fake news media'; and Joe Biden.
The strike-force team's other leader, Jenna Ellis, bristled at the demand for actual evidence, saying: 'Your question is fundamentally flawed when you're asking where is the evidence.'
At the end she claimed that Rudy Giuliani and another lawyer - Sidney Powell - had 'released the Kraken,' a mythical sea creature which destroys ships.
The press conference was announced by Donald Trump and praised by him as it went on in a tweet: 'An open and shut case of voter fraud. Massive numbers!'
As the two-hour long spectacle unfolded, two streaks of brown dye rolled inexorably down 76-year-old Giuliani's face, apparently unnoticed by the former mayor and presidential candidate, who wiped his face and forehead repeatedly with a white handkerchief.
'Did you all watch My Cousin Vinny?' he said, seeking to make the point that election observers were kept too far away from ballots during the count.
'These people were further away than My Cousin Vinny was from the witness,' he said.
Giuliani even acted out part of a scene played by actor Joe Pesci, using a Brooklyn accent. He called it one of his favorite crime films. He said the race was 'not a victory. It's a fraud.'
After suffering more than a score of legal defeats on President Trump's multi-state case to throw out ballots, Giuliani resorted to an extended rant about alleged fraud to reporters packed in tightly at the Republican National Committee headquarters in Washington.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...onference.html
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Gotta love the Daily Mail
Last edited by lost in melb.; 11-20-2020 at 04:14 AM.
P.s., Alan Jones is a right-wing Murdoch Media hack. Nice try, buddy
So Alan Jones doesn't say what you want to hear. Got it.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Last edited by Griffin; 11-20-2020 at 10:37 AM.
FBD (11-20-2020)
Looks like he's going to burst into "Ballad of Dwight Fry" as his encore.Donald Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani delivered a rambling monologue Thursday meant to reveal evidence for a 'massive' vote fraud where he quoted 'My Cousin Vinny' and claimed he had 'hundreds' of sworn affidavits as evidence that he would not share - because, he claimed, it would put his witnesses' lives at risk.
The last time he held a press conference was at Four Seasons Total Landscaping in northern Philadelphia, making the RNC's packed conference room at least an upgrade. And this time there were no known sex offenders on stage with him.
Instead there was a self-styled 'elite strike-force team working on behalf of the president' who outlined a conspiracy which wove together Hugo Chavez; China; Venezuela; Cuba; the Clinton Foundation; George Soros; testimony found 'on the internet'; ballots which arrived in trucks; New Jersey voters who crossed the Camden; 'hack' judges; vote counters in Germany and Spain; Democratic political machines just like Mayor Daley in the 1960s; the 'fake news media'; and Joe Biden.
The strike-force team's other leader, Jenna Ellis, bristled at the demand for actual evidence, saying: 'Your question is fundamentally flawed when you're asking where is the evidence.'
At the end she claimed that Rudy Giuliani and another lawyer - Sidney Powell - had 'released the Kraken,' a mythical sea creature which destroys ships.
The press conference was announced by Donald Trump and praised by him as it went on in a tweet: 'An open and shut case of voter fraud. Massive numbers!'
As the two-hour long spectacle unfolded, two streaks of brown dye rolled inexorably down 76-year-old Giuliani's face, apparently unnoticed by the former mayor and presidential candidate, who wiped his face and forehead repeatedly with a white handkerchief.
'Did you all watch My Cousin Vinny?' he said, seeking to make the point that election observers were kept too far away from ballots during the count.
'These people were further away than My Cousin Vinny was from the witness,' he said.
Giuliani even acted out part of a scene played by actor Joe Pesci, using a Brooklyn accent. He called it one of his favorite crime films. He said the race was 'not a victory. It's a fraud.'
After suffering more than a score of legal defeats on President Trump's multi-state case to throw out ballots, Giuliani resorted to an extended rant about alleged fraud to reporters packed in tightly at the Republican National Committee headquarters in Washington.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...onference.html
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Gotta love the Daily Mail
You obviously havent been following very closely at all - the lawsuit Rudy was talking about that was dropped, it was an injunction to stop the certification of the Michigan election. Since Michigan agreed and stopped the fraudulent certification of the election, there was no point in keeping that suit alive. So no, that particular suit was not about fraud.We obviously live in two alternate universes. I've been following closely the different lawsuits, court transcripts ect.
Did you see the one yesterday where Giuliani was asked in court is this fraud? and he had to reply "this is not about fraud". In front of the camera next day:" mass fraud"
But they probably don't mention this on Trump's Twitter feed and right wing echo chamber media
All of the other "lawsuits that are getting dismissed" have not been brought by Rudy or Team Trump. Many were dismissed because the people who brought them did not have standing to bring the lawsuit.
Make a little more sense now?
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