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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    It's the last paragraph that worries me Gf

    you can pretty much fire a missile into anywhere in Iran and hit a bad guy, but that's not the point
    I don't believe you're that naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    I'm curious why you would think that. I imagine Iran is trying to work out ways to hurt the US now
    Iran is about regional control. Go after the regional ally that they know the US is required to defend. It gives them cover and the ability to claim the US is the aggressor. It's not any different than the proxy war in Yemen. I'd also expect more Iranian attacks against Saudi oil fields.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather View Post
    It worries me too... it's a bold move to finally assassinate this POS. Part of me thinks and hopes nothing will happen because Iran must know they pushed it long enough, but the fear mongers online are saying 'people don't realize but this is going to be a defining moment of the decade.' Only time will tell.
    You're quoting Reddit pussies. When did the US get so soft? I agree that Obama knew it had to be done but decided to befriend Iran with cash rather than engage. Utter failure. Arab Spring. Utter failure.

    The reason ISIS is decimated is a simple change in rules of engagement. I bitched for years about the US military having their hands tied. Trump unleashed the beast. About fucking time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBP View Post
    I don't believe you're that naive.
    The US not only went for a strategic military asset, but also a popular politician, ecetera. my feeling is that this will galvanise the Iranian population under extremist leadership, rather than divide it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBP View Post
    Iran is about regional control. Go after the regional ally that they know the US is required to defend. It gives them cover and the ability to claim the US is the aggressor. It's not any different than the proxy war in Yemen. I'd also expect more Iranian attacks against Saudi oil fields.
    well I guess you're saying...hurting the US by proxy. I hope that's the extent of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    The US not only went for a strategic military asset, but also a popular politician, ecetera. my feeling is that this will galvanise the Iranian population under extremist leadership, rather than divide it.
    I don't think that's the case. The state controlled media would have you believe that, but the actual people are not sorry to see him go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    Very familiar. We're not over 1979, nor 1952.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBP View Post
    I don't think that's the case. The state controlled media would have you believe that, but the actual people are not sorry to see him go.
    I'm sure many are happy to see him go. But actions like this allow the hardliners to say I told you so. But in fairness it's may be too late to pamper the country into a smooth transition. If you can't dissolve the cancer with good living, then you have to extract it brutally.

    I'm not saying the strike is a bad thing, I'm just not sure yet if it's a good thing

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    Also, I think the Obama approach was the correct one to take at the time. Especially given the Iraq war. Sometimes you don't know until you try. military intervention in the middle East does not have a reliable track record (either)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    How anyone can have a firm opinion on this given we know almost nothing so far, beats me. I'm talking generally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    Also, I think the Obama approach was the correct one to take at the time. Especially given the Iraq war. Sometimes you don't know until you try. military intervention in the middle East does not have a reliable track record (either)
    Appeasement never works with terrorists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    Appeasement never works with terrorists.
    Agreed. However terrorists in the middle East are located in countries that have decent citizens. Caution is warranted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    Agreed. However terrorists in the middle East are located in countries that have decent citizens. Caution is warranted.
    You're right. There are many decent human beings in Iran that are suffering under the Iranian terrorist regime. They could always run for cover.


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