I think most people with the flu aren't stupid enough to try to travel to another country while sick. Either that or the fact that they're visibly sick gets them turned away?Originally Posted by perrhaps
I know airlines have the right to refuse to let people board if they're visibly ill, so maybe the flu thing is a foregone conclusion. If you have the flu, don't expect to fly.
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Not to mention the fact that there's this little thing called a 'flu vaccine' that people can take to prevent/limit the severity of the flu. Plus, doctors know what causes the flu, how it's transmitted, all that good stuff. The flu isn't some brand new disease that just popped up out of nowhere.
Newborn becomes youngest person diagnosed with coronavirus as infections near 30K
By David Aaro | Fox News
A Chinese newborn has become the youngest person infected with the coronavirus, after it was diagnosed just 30 hours after birth, according to multiple reports.
The baby's mother reportedly tested positive before she gave birth on Feb. 2 in Wuhan -- the epicenter of the virus, the BBC reported, citing state media outlet Xinhua. They added the baby is in stable condition.
The television network says the baby could have either contracted the virus while in the womb or became infected due to close contact with the mother after birth.
"This reminds us to pay attention to mother-to-child being a possible route of coronavirus transmission," chief physician of Wuhan Children Hospital's neonatal medicine department, Zeng Lingkong told Reuters.
The median age for infected patients is between 49 to 56 years old, according to a report by the Journal of American Medical Association.
A Korean Air flight traveling to Las Vegas was diverted to Los Angeles International Airport on Wednesday due to concerns that some of its passengers had been exposed to the coronavirus, according to a statement from the airline.
The flight continued to McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas once they passed screening tests.
Three of the flight's 200 passengers had reportedly been in China within 14 days of the flight's departure. After showing no signs of symptoms in Los Angeles, they were allowed back on the flight.
It wasn't clear if they had been to Wuhan.
A spokesman from McCarran confirmed reports there were “concerns that passengers aboard had been to China.”
There are now 12 confirmed cases of the virus in the U.S.
As of Wednesday night, six were in California, one in Wisconsin, one in Arizona, one in Washington state, one in Massachusetts and two in Illinois. No deaths have been reported in the U.S., and 99 percent of cases still remain in China.
One person was announced to have been infected in Wisconsin on Wednesday after being exposed to the virus while in China, according to the Wisconsin Department of Health Services.
“DHS is operating with an abundance of caution and is working very closely with the local health department and UW Hospital and Clinics to ensure that this patient and any close contacts are closely monitored,” said State Health Officer Jeanne Ayers. “The risk of getting sick from 2019 novel coronavirus in Wisconsin is very low. We are responding aggressively to the situation and monitoring all developments. We are committed to keeping the public fully informed and will continue to provide updates as this situation unfolds.”
UW Health says they are operating with "an abundance of caution" to make sure the patient is "closely monitored."
“Since initial treatment at University Hospital, the patient has been self-quarantined at home. We are coordinating with the CDC, DHS, and local health authorities," said UW Health Medical Director of Infection Control Dr. Nasia Safdar.
The U.S. announced on Sunday that Americans who traveled to China within the last 14 days would be sent to designated airports for enhanced screenings. Foreign nationals who recently went to China would be denied entry in the U.S., except for the immediate family of American citizens and permanent residents.
In Asia, 20 passengers have tested positive for the coronavirus aboard one of two quarantined cruise ships outside of Japan, according to health officials in the country on Thursday.
Yesterday, 10 people aboard the Diamond Princess ship had fallen ill with the virus, resulting in roughly 3,700 passengers being placed in quarantine -- a total of 5,000 on both ships.
Two additional people in New York City are also being tested for the coronavirus after returning from China.
“New York City is on high alert and prepared to handle any confirmed cases of the novel coronavirus,” said Mayor Bill de Blasio in a statement. “My message to New Yorkers remains the same: if you have the travel history and are exhibiting symptoms, please see your health provider immediately.”
Earlier this week, testing for one of the previous three people in New York City come back negative for the coronavirus after they made recent trips to mainland China, according to the state's Department of Public Health.
“The first person who met the criteria to have samples sent to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was found not to have the 2019 novel coronavirus,” said Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot. “The response and care the patient received reflects how well the systems we have in place are working. We want to thank everyone for all they did, and we will keep New Yorkers informed as the situation develops.”
Results of the pending four tests should be known in 36-48 hours, officials said.
China's Foreign Ministry said on Monday that the U.S. hasn't given the country any substantive help in its fight against the coronavirus outbreak. They added the U.S. was contributing to the international panic surrounding the illness, according to a report by Reuters.
Weeks after China announced the outbreak of the coronavirus, the international community has increased measures to prevent a widespread epidemic.
The World Health Organization (WHO) declared the outbreak a global emergency as it spreads to countries outside of China and the number of infected patients continues to grow.
Countries around the globe have increased travel restrictions to the infected mainland China and Hubei province — with the U.S. State Department increasing its advisory to level 4: "Do Not Travel."
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have advised travelers to avoid all nonessential travel to the country.
Coronavirus has now infected and killed more people in China than were sickened during the SARS outbreak in the early 2000s.
The SARS outbreak had killed 349 people in mainland China back in 2002 and 2003 -- with 744 deaths and 8,096 infections globally, according to the CDC.
Has China's biggest online news site really revealed 'real' coronavirus death figures? Screen grabs showing 24,589 death toll that sparked wild conspiracy theories 'could have been digitally altered'
By ROSS IBBETSON FOR MAILONLINE
Chinese news site Tencent allegedly listed figures for the coronavirus on Saturday showing that more than
154,000 were infected and a death toll of 24,589 - more than ten times and 80 times the official figures
respectively. The figures posted included 79,808 suspected cases - four times the official numbers - and
the number of cured cases as 269, rather than 351
Web users have questioned the authenticity of Beijing's coronavirus death toll after claiming to have spotted much higher statistics of the victims 'momentarily' on the country's largest online news site.
Tencent, the second largest company in China, allegedly listed figures for the coronavirus on Saturday showing 154,023 were infected and 24,589 dead - more than ten times and 80 times the official figures respectively.
But the website swiftly updated its 'Epidemic Situation Tracker' to reflect the official figures of 14,446 infected and 304 dead, internet users accused.
The images have sparked wild conspiracy theories.
While some people said the staggering figures could have been leaked by journalists with conscience in defiance of Beijing's order; others argued that the trending screen grabs could have been digitally altered.
The life-threatening disease has killed at least 565 people and infected more than 28,300
The other erroneous or leaked figures posted included 79,808 suspected cases - four times the official numbers - and the number of cured cases as 269, rather than 351.
The news comes amid widespread speculation that the Communist Party in Beijing may be suppressing the ravages of the deadly flu-like virus.
MailOnline cannot independently verify the authenticity of the screen grabs. Tencent has not issued any statement regarding the accusation.
The official death toll continues to rise in China as the country's National Health Commission reported 73 new deaths overnight - another daily record.
The life-threatening disease, which can spread through saliva, has killed at least 565 people and infected more than 28,300 globally.
One image, shared by a website called Secret China, appeared to show Tencent reporting 2,577 people killed by
January 26 - more than 30 times higher than the governmental number
Another image purports to show Tencent updating the death toll to just 81 the day after
Netizens claimed to have seen higher death tolls briefly on Tencent twice already last month.
One Twitter user, who claims to be a Taiwan-based political analyst, shared one screen grab, which purported to show the death toll at 12,781 at around 8:30pm on January 27. The official death toll on the day was 80.
Another image, shared by a website called Secret China, appeared to show Tencent reporting 2,577 people killed by January 26 - more than 30 times higher than the governmental number.
The discussions and relevant screen grabs were circulating on Facebook and Twitter, both of which are blocked in China. The controversy has also been covered by Chinese-language websites based out of mainland China, such as Taiwan News.
Pincong, a Chinese forum with a focus on censored topics, commented on the Tencent figures: 'Don't know if this is true, but it is certain that the real figures are higher [than the official ones].
'Because the majority of sufferers in Wuhan have sent their pleadings for help through WeChat, accusing hospitals of refusing to admit them after they had been infected.
'[Therefore], these deaths were not counted into the epidemic statistics. This is enough to show how serious the real situation is.'
However, some comments under the Pingcong post suggested that the viral screen grabs could have been digitally altered.
One person called 'Hui Yeji' said: 'The real figures should not be much lower than this, but the picture is likely to be fake.'
To mock those spreading the conspiracy theories, another user known as 'InspectorBen' uploaded an edited screenshot which showed the death toll at 114,514 on January 32.
One user known as 'InspectorBen' uploaded an edited screenshot (above) which shows the death toll at 114,514
on January 32 to mock those spreading the conspiracy theories
The number of people infected with the coronavirus has soared since late January. The true toll is expected to be
considerably higher as many may have mild symptoms never get diagnosed
The death toll jumped by more than 70 overnight, taking total deaths to 565 since January 20
China's Communist Party has been accused of under-reporting the official figures and cracking down on medics who have attempted to reveal the truth.
China on Thursday reported the death toll from the coronavirus had risen by 73 to 563, with the number of confirmed cases jumping by 3,694 to 28,018, the majority in and around Wuhan.
Most of those who have died were in that region, but officials have confirmed multiple deaths elsewhere, including in the capital Beijing.
But there have been reports from crematorium workers in Wuhan - the epicentre of the virus - that they are being sent corpses not added to the official tally.
Meanwhile hospital staff have leaked videos purporting to show dead bodies strewn across ward corridors in Wuhan.
And a doctor, 34-year-old Li Wenliang, earlier this week came down with the virus himself after he was cautioned by police for informing his colleagues at the start of the outbreak of 'SARS at a Wuhan seafood market.'
In addition, China has been critical of countries like the US for taking what it believes are extreme measures in barring its people from migration, setting a further dichotomy between what Beijing wants the world to believe and what is fact.
The US, Australia, New Zealand, Italy, Taiwan and Vietnam have all banned foreigners crossing through their borders from China. And countless airlines have decided to halt flights to the country.
Hubei province, of which Wuhan is the capital, reported 70 new deaths and 2,987 new confirmed cases on Wednesday, the local health commission said in a notice on Thursday.
Hubei in central China has been in virtual lock-down for nearly two weeks, with its train stations and airports shut and its roads sealed off.
The coronavirus was first identified in Hubei's provincial capital of Wuhan and is believed to have originated at a seafood market in the city.
The number of deaths on Wednesday was higher than the 65 reported on the previous day, though the number of new cases fell slightly from 3,156.
The province's healthcare infrastructure has come under heavy pressure as a result of the epidemic.
The commission said as many as 14,314 people were still undergoing treatment on Wednesday, with 2,328 still in a serious condition.
By Sophie Bateman - The Daily Star
Rumours are circulating about the whereabouts of President Xi Jinping amid China's coronavirus epidemic.
The state leader hasn't been seen in several days, missing his regularly scheduled media appearances - odd behaviour for a leader who dominates the Chinese press.
It's even stranger for the President to vanish during a public health crisis, although state media reports Xi has been personally directing the country's response to the deadly virus that has killed more than 500 people.
Xi typically appears on CCTV's main news programme and the front page of the People's Daily almost every day, as both are run by the ruling Communist Party. The newspaper in particular often devotes entire front page spreads to photos of the President meeting dignitaries and conducting normal business.
He has now been absent from Chinese media for several days.
Media scrutinising his conspicuous absence have come up with several theories. One is that he has retreated into the background to minimise his perceived involvement with the coronavirus crisis, allowing other officials to take the fall.
"Xi is the most powerful Chinese leader since Mao Zedong, but he's also uniquely vulnerable due to the way he has centralised control," speculates CNN. "Absolute power brings with it absolute responsibility."
This means lower-ranking Wuhan politicians will probably be blamed for the economic and societal devastation caused by the outbreak.
Another theory is that Xi has effectively quarantined himself because he's wary of catching the coronavirus from an infected member of the public.
"While you would think the 'people's leader' would want to be seen close to the people, perhaps, in this case, the risk of him catching the virus may be too high," suggests China analyst Bill Bishop.
He added that photos of Xi wearing a protective mask might also damage his reputation as a strong leader.
Chinese citizens are particularly concerned by the disappearance of their President, and are using social media to communicate their worries and speculate as to where he might be.
However these posts are being "swiftly deleted by censors", CNN reports. The Chinese government has a stranglehold on the internet known as the "Great Firewall" and content that questions or criticises the state is often blocked.
"Rampant speculation is growing, as those desperate to see the back of Xi spread wild, wholly unfounded claims," CNN reports.
Social media posts criticising or making fun of Xi have been subjected to censorship in the past.
A series of memes comparing him to the rotund children's character Winnie the Pooh was deemed "a serious effort to undermine the dignity of the presidential office and Xi himself".
Looks like we have 12 confirmed cases here in the US.
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The flu has already spread globally a hundred times over, it's too late. We could stop this though... I get that people are trying to calm folks down from freaking out by pointing out that the flu kills more people (and I agree that some perspective helps), but from what I understand this coronavirus has a higher infection rate and a higher mortality rate, and so it has the potential to be far worse than seasonal flu. Why let it get there...
I've seen old newspaper articles recently from the start of the Spanish Flu where they tried to bring calm by using the same reasoning.
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One American has died of the coronavirus, reports say. Few details are available except that the American was a 60 year old woman with health issues and was quarantined in Wuhan, China. She passed away on Thursday at a local Wuhan hospital.
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By Edmund DeMarche | Fox News
Japan may test every person aboard the Diamond Princess for the coronavirus after it was determined Monday that there were 60 new cases on the quarantined ship docked off the coast of Yokohama.
The Japan Times, which first reported the increase, said the passengers will be able to disembark after test results become available. Princess Cruises did not immediately respond to an after-hours email from Fox News.
The passengers have been confined on the ship for six days with limited outdoor activities. The New York Times reported that the ship is "host to the highest concentration of the coronavirus cases outside China." The report said 2,600 passengers have been holed up in their cabins, and some have spoken about their anxiety.
"My whole thing is just to stay calm, because no matter what, I’m here. But every day it’s anxiety-provoking when we see the ambulances line up on the side of the ship," one passenger told the paper.
On Monday, China’s health ministry said another 3,062 cases had been reported over the previous 24 hours, raising the Chinese mainland’s total to 40,171. The number of deaths grew by 97 to 908.
The Associated Press contributed to this report
By Vandana Rambaran | Fox News
China's National Health Commission (NHC) reported 97 new deaths on Sunday in mainland China as a result of the coronavirus outbreak, the largest death toll in a single day.
Since the virus was first reported, 908 people have died in the country.
Most of the new deaths were in Hubei province, the epicenter of the virus, which was first reported at an animal and seafood market.
There were also 3,062 new confirmed cases of the virus as of Sunday, bringing the total number of infections to 40,171.
At this point, the death count from coronavirus has far surpassed that of the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) outbreak in 2003, where 774 people died and 8,000 were infected.
They're burning infected bodies now?
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Music was better when ugly people were allowed to make it.
Isn't that how 'Day of the Dead" started?
They're burning infected bodies now?
What else are you supposed to do with them?
They're burning infected bodies now?
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