Donald Trump's disinfectant coronavirus suggestion horrifies medics, leaves some Americans confused

[RBP]

I have no idea what he's doing. Do you know why he was bringing up people being injected or eating disinfectant?

He's the leader of the free world. You know this stuff reverberates all around the world.

P. S. The most likely idiots to start injecting disinfectant would be his supporters, surely?

First, you know he didn't say that. But hyperbole aside, the reverberation is not the direct words of the President, it's the coverage and interpretation. Which you also already know.

I don't think anyone is going to inject disinfectant. That's more hyperbole designed to feed the confirmation bias.

Why would he even bring it up? I'm going for his masterful ability to own the news cycle every single day - love him or hate him, everyone is talking about him. I'll assume he wanted a distraction to change the subject, but I am not as skilled with persuasion techniques.

[RBP]

And by the way, the UV light treatment he WAS talking about is real and actively being tested.

https://apnews.com/b44f4531071e6204023f7b8e16f59d4b

[RBP]

Pro Tip: If you find yourself bleating, "But he literally said that," you are demonstrating that you don't understand how words work. Meaning requires context. It never matters what someone LITERALLY said. It only matters what they meant, which context can help you discern.

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) April 25, 2020

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[Griffin]

So scientists at Cedars-Sinai are using injectable disenfectants, interesting.

[Pony]

P. S. The most likely idiots to start injecting disinfectant would be his supporters, surely?

The idiots that drank fish tank cleaner because it had chloroquine in it were leftists.

And the people that watch the networks like msnbc that are non stop feeding misinformation are mostly leftists.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

If it's reported by the TDS News Networks, then it is all 100% true

[Teh One Who Knocks]

By Charles Creitz | Fox News




"The Five" co-host Greg Gutfeld reacted Friday to the media accusing President Trump of suggesting Americans inject caustic chemical disinfectants into their bodies to fight coronavirus.

"I mean, 1,000 days with Trump as president and we still have an entire industry mobilized by an offhand comment," Gutfeld said, later adding "How can any adult believe seriously believe that he was saying, 'Hey, people should inject Clorox into their body'?"

Trump said Friday that he was being sarcastic when he made the statement during Thursday's White House coronavirus task force briefing. Following a presentation on the effects of sunlight, heat and humidity as well as surface disinfectants on the coronavirus, the president said: "Is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or, or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets on the lungs and it does a tremendous number, so it will be interesting to check that.

So [for] that, you're going to have to use medical doctor," Trump added. "But it sounds, it sounds interesting to me. So we'll see."

Gutfeld said Friday that Trump's remarks could be treated as being potentially "off-the-cuff" or "sarcasm" and questioned whether serious adults actually believe the president was advising "injecting Clorox into people."

Gutfeld said some people have a "pre-existing condition" to believe the worst spin on whatever the president says or does.

"I would challenge the media one day to look at somebody they don't like and try to assume the best of their comments," he said, incredulously noting that some news outlets took the time to interview experts about whether injecting people with chemical solvents is advisable.

"This is actually a news cycle," he said. As other stuff is going on. This is hilarious.".

[Teh One Who Knocks]

By Ashe Schow - The Daily Wire




After President Donald Trump’s Thursday comments regarding UV light and disinfectant went viral (with left-wing pundits and media outlets claiming he told people to inject themselves with disinfectant and drink bleach), multiple news agencies reported local spikes in calls to poison control. As with the inflated claims about what Trump said, the idea that people started injecting themselves with household cleaner were overblown and falsified.

For example, the New York Daily News reported there was an unusually high number of New Yorkers contacted city health authorities over fears that they had ingested bleach or other household cleaners in the 18 hours that followed President Trump’s bogus claim that injecting such products could cure coronavirus.”

As Reason’s Elizabeth Nolan Brown reported, however, that was not the case.

“[T]he article makes no mention of anyone deliberately consuming household cleaners. It simply states that 30 people called the city’s poison control hotline ‘over fears that they had ingested bleach or other household cleaners,’” Nolan Brown reported. “Fearing that you ingested something doesn’t jibe with having intentionally consumed that substance.”

Further, the Daily News reporters compare the number of calls this year to those during the same period last year – when people weren’t using household cleaners as stringently as they are now and thus not risking as much exposure.

“[O]ne needn’t do a detailed analysis to surmise why exposure to things like Lysol and bleach—and fears about this exposure—might be up this month over April 2019. And one needn’t reach for the ridiculous explanation that it’s because people deliberately consumed it en masse after listening to Trump. We are in the midst of a pandemic right now and we were not in April 2019. Of course more people are being exposed to household disinfectants at the moment than were during this time last year,” Nolan Brown wrote.

The Daily News also noted that no one died or needed to be hospitalized after calling into Poison Control, which Nolan Brown said suggested “their exposure was minimal and not of the Lysol-mouthwash variety.”

Other media outlets used the number of calls to Poison Control in March to knock Trump, Nolan Brown reported. An article from WDRB about a “spike” in calls to Poison Control was published the day after Trump’s comments, and while it doesn’t specifically mention those comments, it does include a video that tacks what Trump said onto the end of the same report. Further, the numbers included in WDRB’s report are from March, long before Trump’s April 23 briefing.

WCIA in Illinois also blamed Trump for two calls to the state’s Poison Control hotline for misusing cleaning products. The outlet mentioned Illinois Poison Control spokesperson Danny Chun flat out saying the calls were nothing new and that calls to the hotline had increased by 36% during the pandemic.

Fox 5 in Baltimore also decided to publish an article the day after Trump’s comments about an increase in calls to Poison Control, which included information from “the past six weeks.”

The CDC also released a report this week about increased exposure to harmful toxins through the increased use of household cleaners, and people have used the report to hit Trump, even though the CDC’s data stops at March 31, Nolan Brown reported.

[lost in melb.]

First, you know he didn't say that. But hyperbole aside, the reverberation is not the direct words of the President, it's the coverage and interpretation. Which you also already know.

I don't think anyone is going to inject disinfectant. That's more hyperbole designed to feed the confirmation bias.

Why would he even bring it up? I'm going for his masterful ability to own the news cycle every single day - love him or hate him, everyone is talking about him. I'll assume he wanted a distraction to change the subject, but I am not as skilled with persuasion techniques.

“we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?”

[lost in melb.]

And by the way, the UV light treatment he WAS talking about is real and actively being tested.

https://apnews.com/b44f4531071e6204023f7b8e16f59d4b

Ok, so he wasn't being sarcastic?

[lost in melb.]

Pro Tip: If you find yourself bleating, "But he literally said that," you are demonstrating that you don't understand how words work. Meaning requires context. It never matters what someone LITERALLY said. It only matters what they meant, which context can help you discern.

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) April 25, 2020

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Thanks Scott for telling us how it is. Where would the world be without your profound declarations of how we are to interpret meaning. And of course we can apply that to all the leftists comments as well

[lost in melb.]

So scientists at Cedars-Sinai are using injectable disenfectants, interesting.

The idiots that drank fish tank cleaner because it had chloroquine in it were leftists.

And the people that watch the networks like msnbc that are non stop feeding misinformation are mostly leftists.

If it's reported by the TDS News Networks, then it is all 100% true

Meanwhile...

[RBP]

Interpreting his comments as suggesting people inject/ingest household disinfectants, and then lying about people actually doing it, is nothing but cognitive distortion. I'm not sure that there's anything more for me to say.

As for the chart, are infection numbers relevant at this point? We already know the infection numbers are going to continue to climb and comparative statistics are not pure, but tied to testing levels. There was never an expectation of lowering infection numbers and I suspect if the chart went the other way, people so inclined would argue the opposite as proof of the same complaint.

[DemonGeminiX]

He can't admit that he was wrong. He honestly believes he's right.

[lost in melb.]

You guys win. I'm literally too exhausted to try and understand how you think