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    Drama Oklahoma man shoots woman trying to steal Nazi flag from his home, authorities say

    By Stephen Sorace | Fox News




    An Oklahoma man shot a 26-year-old woman multiple times Sunday after she tried taking a Nazi flag flying at his home, investigators said.

    Alexander John Feaster, 44, fired several shots from an AR platform rifle without warning, striking the woman in her lower abdomen and legs as she was running away, the Garfield County sheriff's office said in an affidavit obtained by the Enid News & Eagle.

    The 26-year-old was found lying in a ditch and several people were applying first aid when deputies arrived around 3 a.m., Sheriff Jody Helm told KFOR-TV.

    The woman had been at a party across the street, according to police, and initial information suggested she tried to steal the swastika flag on a dare. However, Helm told NBC News that there was “conflicting information” regarding her reason for taking the banner.

    Deputies arrested Feaster without incident, authorities said. The affidavit stated that several firearms, ammunition and military-style gear were found inside his home.

    Neighbors told KFOR that Feaster had been flying two Nazi flags outside his home for about a year. They were taken several times in the past.

    “His flags got stolen a couple times when he first put them out, but nothing ever came of it,” a neighbor said. “This is the first time it’s ever come to violence.”

    The neighbor said Feaster mostly kept to himself and was known to wear a black uniform with a red swastika armband in public.

    Feaster was charged Wednesday with a felony count of assault and battery with a deadly weapon, the News & Eagle reported. He was being held at the Garfield County Detention Center with a bond of $500,000.

    The woman was being treated at a hospital for her wounds and was expected to survive, reports said. It was unclear whether she would face charges for taking the flag.

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    some states have a 'my castle' style law don't they?
    does that apply to the entire property or just inside the house?
    does it only apply if you feel you are in danager, which someoone running away would not constitute?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikari Kisugi View Post
    some states have a 'my castle' style law don't they?
    does that apply to the entire property or just inside the house?
    does it only apply if you feel you are in danager, which someoone running away would not constitute?
    You can only use deadly force against someone if you feel your life is in danger or that you fear severe bodily harm. You are not allowed to fire a weapon at someone just because they are robbing you.

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    ah , ok
    but say they were armed you could argue the life in danger aspect, yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikari Kisugi View Post
    ah , ok
    but say they were armed you could argue the life in danger aspect, yes?
    If they were armed, and they threatened you with that weapon, then it would be game on.

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    This sounds like the type of bloke we woulkd hear about in the news as having shot heaps of people at a whatever place/event....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh One Who Knocks View Post
    You can only use deadly force against someone if you feel your life is in danger or that you fear severe bodily harm. You are not allowed to fire a weapon at someone just because they are robbing you.
    Huh. Interesting. That was not my understanding. Running away in the yard, okay, but in my home? I'd think I could put that animal down.
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    I was always told by the cops that I know that if someone breaks into my home, fire away. If he gets outside and dies, drag him back inside over the threshold.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RBP View Post
    Huh. Interesting. That was not my understanding. Running away in the yard, okay, but in my home? I'd think I could put that animal down.
    There are multiple things that go into whether you can use deadly force against someone, even in your home. First and foremost, you CANNOT be the aggressor in the situation, otherwise it quickly becomes a murder case. Secondly, even if you are in your own home, you must be afraid for your safety and the people in your home. Hear a noise downstairs and you go and encounter a man with a gun, deadly force would be justified. But hear a noise downstairs and you find 2 guys carrying your flat screen out the door, you can't use deadly force. Now you could try and hold them at gunpoint and call the police, but if the drop the TV and try and run away and you shoot them, again quickly becomes a murder case.

    The best rule of thumb is, before you can use deadly force, you must feel that your life is in danger or you are liable to suffer severe bodily harm. And even then the laws vary from state to state.

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    How about if I trip , drop the gun, it goes off when it hits the floor accidentally shooting the perps eye out?

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    dude looks like he sneezed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin View Post
    How about if I trip , drop the gun, it goes off when it hits the floor accidentally shooting the perps eye out?
    Bounces then shoots the other perp in the chest?

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    I think it varies pretty widely from state to state, if it's inside your home it's more likely to be self defense regardless of the circumstances. Some states require you need to be "retreating" and have an imminent threat to your live.

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    In Georgia, we have both Stand Your Ground and a Castle Doctrine. Basically, there's no duty to retreat so long as you're not the instigator, and I'm gonna quote this one:

    If someone breaks or is breaking into your home, you can shoot them, legally, as long as you “reasonably” believe such force is required to stop the “unlawful entry into or attack upon a habitation."
    So if someone is breaking into my house, I can shoot them. As I've said before, police officers I know have told me to shoot first, and if the perpetrator dies outside, drag the body inside over the threshold. I was also told to say, "I was in fear for my life and/or my family's safety", which, to be honest, is probably going to be true in a break-in situation anyway. Lawyers have told me not to go into detail before speaking to a lawyer, but since I know most of the cops around here, and they know my family, I don't think I'll have much to worry about with cops trying to trip me up. My disability puts me at an automatic disadvantage in the first place, and I think most cops, familiar or not, will take that into consideration when assessing the situation.
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