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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    My $0.02. psychiatry is male-dominated and so women have flooded into psychology
    I'm not sure that makes sense though. The names sound similar but I really can't picture many people sitting there having a choice between one or the other as career paths. Psychology is something you can get an associate degree in from community college that probably doesn't even make you employable. Psychiatry means you went all the way through a science undergrad and then med school, before being accepted into a 4-5 year residency program to become a board certified physician in psychiatry.

    Also maybe psychiatry was male dominated historically, but these days psychiatry residencies are dominated by women by about 2:1, at least in Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather View Post
    I'm not sure that makes sense though. The names sound similar but I really can't picture many people sitting there having a choice between one or the other as career paths. Psychology is something you can get an associate degree in from community college that probably doesn't even make you employable. Psychiatry means you went all the way through a science undergrad and then med school, before being accepted into a 4-5 year residency program to become a board certified physician in psychiatry.

    Also maybe psychiatry was male dominated historically, but these days psychiatry residencies are dominated by women by about 2:1, at least in Canada.
    I'm not sure what you mean by "psychology". Do you mean registered APA psychologists? My pathway was 6 years including 3 years post graduate to be a registered psychologist. To be an educational and developmental or clinical psychologist in Australia you must do postgraduate plus an extra year of supervision. However, to call yourself an organisational psychologist, you only need to do 2 or 3 years study after school.

    Unfortunately, it can be difficult for a client to separate out how much experience and qualifications differing "psychologists" have.

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    Ah I see, we were indeed talking about very different things. I knee-jerked and thought you just meant the cute girls who minored in psych in college (it's a cliche in Canada) vs clinical psychiatrists, but I understand you were speaking of registered psychologists like yourself, my apologies and I certainly meant no offense to your profession. I am mortified with my comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    That's right. also psychiatry focuses on mental illness whereas psychology focuses more broadly on mental wellness
    my ex said that she always wanted to work with the schizos until she realized that they're just broken and you basically just have to give them drugs. with normal people, its a more complex nut to crack, in a way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather View Post
    Ah I see, we were indeed talking about very different things. I knee-jerked and thought you just meant the cute girls who minored in psych in college (it's a cliche in Canada) vs clinical psychiatrists, but I understand you were speaking of registered psychologists like yourself, my apologies and I certainly meant no offense to your profession. I am mortified with my comment.
    Psychology is something you can get an associate degree in from community college that probably doesn't even make you employable.
    There for eternity

    Seriously though, it's not your fault and I appreciate your second post. Pretty much anyone can lob psychologist in front of their name, so it gets confusing very quickly.

    It's the same with Doctor. E.g. My local dentist has Dr. in front of his name. Veterinary surgeons are often called Dr as well. They are not doctors!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    My $0.02. psychiatry is male-dominated and so women have flooded into psychology
    Eh. Psychology was male dominated as well. Men are not seeking that education and career path any more. The pay is so low for mental health therapists. I am not sure if women don't care about the economics or whether the flood of women into social sciences drives the price down. Psychologists are different, but have you seen wage deflation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBD View Post
    my ex said that she always wanted to work with the schizos until she realized that they're just broken and you basically just have to give them drugs. with normal people, its a more complex nut to crack, in a way
    That's what is done; that doesn't make it right. There is room to make progress with those afflicted by schizophrenia. It takes a lot of individual therapy. The fact that they are written off as crazy is a tragedy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBP View Post
    Eh. Psychology was male dominated as well. Men are not seeking that education and career path any more. The pay is so low for mental health therapists. I am not sure if women don't care about the economics or whether the flood of women into social sciences drives the price down. Psychologists are different, but have you seen wage deflation?
    Patriarchal perpetuation of the gender wage gap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh One Who Knocks View Post
    Patriarchal perpetuation of the gender wage gap
    When I was last in the market, the largest EAP was offering $33,000 to master's level clinicians to work in downtown Chicago on 2nd shift. I literally laughed on the phone. But you know they are filling those jobs.
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