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    War U.S. Army Is Officially Ditching The M4 Rifle For Something Much More Powerful

    By Ryan Saavedra - The Daily Wire




    The U.S. Army is officially ditching the M4/M4A1 carbine for a new service rifle that fires a much more powerful projectile that will be critical to the U.S. Army’s ability to outgun emerging near-peer competitors like China.

    The U.S. Army announced last month a 10-year contract with Sig Sauer to manufacture two Next Generation Squad Weapon (NGSW) variations: the XM5 Rifle, which will replace the M4/M4A1 carbine; and the XM250 Automatic Rifle, which will replace the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon.

    Both the M4/M4A1 carbine and the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon relied on firing the 5.56x45mm NATO cartridge. The new NGSW rifles will fire a new 6.8x51mm cartridge that are more accurate and are more lethal against emerging threats than both the 5.56x45mm and 7.62x51mm ammunition.

    “Both weapons provide significant capability improvements in accuracy, range and overall lethality,” the U.S. Army said in a statement. “They are lightweight, fire more lethal ammunition, mitigate recoil, provide improved barrel performance, and include integrated muzzle sound and flash reduction.”

    The NGSW rifles will also be paired with a game changing fire control system that will give U.S. soldiers a major advantage on the battle field.

    “The XM5 and XM250 will be paired with the XM157 Fire Control, a ruggedized advanced fire control system that increases accuracy and lethality for the close combat force,” the statement continued. “The XM157 integrates a number of advanced technologies, including a variable magnification optic (1X8), backup etched reticle, laser rangefinder, ballistic calculator, atmospheric sensor suite, compass, Intra-Soldier Wireless, visible and infrared aiming lasers, and a digital display overlay. It is produced by Sheltered Wings Inc. d/b/a Vortex Optics, Barneveld, Wisconsin.”

    The contract was awarded to Sig Sauer after several companies competed 27-months for it.

    The new 6.8x51mm cartridge “uses a patented lightweight metallic case designed to handle pressures higher than conventional ammunition, resulting in dramatically increased velocity and on-target energy in lighter weapons,” the company said in a statement. “The U.S. Army’s procurement of the NGSW System marks the beginning of an era where combat weapons are coupled with a suppressor as standard issue equipment.”

    U.S. Army Brigadier General Larry Q. Burris said that their goal to win on the modern battlefield is to achieve “a clear, decisive and sustainable overmatch against our near-peer adversaries.”

    He said that the need to overmatch “near-peer adversaries” was more pressing today than at any other time in recent history as Russia is fighting a war in Europe and China is increasingly becoming aggressive throughout the Pacific.

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    When can we test one out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    When can we test one out?
    You don't have one already? Slacker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinD View Post
    You don't have one already? Slacker.
    I said "we" for a reason. I'm too scared to pick up one

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    Who's gonna take Lost to the range while he's in the States?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pony View Post
    Who's gonna take Lost to the range while he's in the States?
    As much as I'd enjoy watching him curl up into a fetal ball on the ground from all the gunfire going off around us, I have to decline. I don't wanna be blamed for his severe PTSD.


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    Interesting. Wonder if NATO will adopt 6.8mm as a common cartridge then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    As much as I'd enjoy watching him curl up into a fetal ball on the ground from all the gunfire going off around us, I have to decline. I don't wanna be blamed for his severe PTSD.
    If you can get your hands on anything close to a military grade rifle, I'll take the red pill there and then

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    This is our standard issue:

    https://www.army.gov.au/our-work/equ...eapon%20sights.

    Calibre - 5.56 millimetres
    Weight - 4.8 kilograms (with loaded magazine F88SA2)
    Length - 790 millimetres (F88SA2)
    Barrel length - 508 millimetres (F88SA2)
    Muzzle velocity - 930 metres per second
    Feed - 30-round magazine
    Effective range - 300 metres (1.5x)
    Cyclic rate of fire - 680 to 850 rounds per minute


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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    If you can get your hands on anything close to a military grade rifle, I'll take the red pill there and then
    It's relatively easy to get your hands on a military grade rifle in my state. All you have to do is pay the NFA tax stamp.


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    Yup. Its fairly easy to do it legally. Personally i have no use for a military rifle. I shot plenty enough of them when I was active duty. There are far better solutions for hunting and home/self defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    This is our standard issue:

    https://www.army.gov.au/our-work/equ...eapon%20sights.

    Calibre - 5.56 millimetres
    Weight - 4.8 kilograms (with loaded magazine F88SA2)
    Length - 790 millimetres (F88SA2)
    Barrel length - 508 millimetres (F88SA2)
    Muzzle velocity - 930 metres per second
    Feed - 30-round magazine
    Effective range - 300 metres (1.5x)
    Cyclic rate of fire - 680 to 850 rounds per minute

    Those look like tavors. And one of my ARs are chambered in 5.56. It's not automatic, but there's probably a way to change that. If you're actually putting 850 rounds through that continuously per minute, then you better hope that barrel holds up, cause that shit's gonna heat up something fierce.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    Those look like tavors. And one of my ARs are chambered in 5.56. It's not automatic, but there's probably a way to change that. If you're actually putting 850 rounds through that continuously per minute, then you better hope that barrel holds up, cause that shit's gonna heat up something fierce.
    I assume there's a bit of a breather when you change magazines.

    Interestingly yours only has 20 rounds per magazine. Ours has 30. Quality not quantity, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    I assume there's a bit of a breather when you change magazines.

    Interestingly yours only has 20 rounds per magazine. Ours has 30. Quality not quantity, I guess.
    I don't know. I've seen people change magazines ridiculously fast. I can't do it, but I know people who can.

    All my ar-15 mags are 30 rounds. 20 round mags are available and 40 round mags are available as well. I think there are 10 round magazines, but only people in states that have mag capacity restrictions use those. Nobody else wants them. There are no magazine capacity restrictions in GA.

    My AR-10 mags are 20 and 25 rounds, but the 308 Winchester round is considerably larger than the 5.56, so the 308 round takes up more space.

    I think there are 50-60 and 100 round ar-15 drums available, but there's a question to their reliability so I've never purchased any.
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