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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    I don't know. I've seen people change magazines ridiculously fast. I can't do it, but I know people who can.

    All my ar-15 mags are 30 rounds. 20 round mags are available and 40 round mags are available as well. I think there are 10 round magazines, but only people in states that have mag capacity restrictions use those. Nobody else wants them. There are no magazine capacity restrictions in GA.

    My AR-10 mags are 20 and 25 rounds, but the 308 Winchester round is considerably larger than the 5.56, so the 308 round takes up more space.

    I think there are 50-60 and 100 round ar-15 drums available, but there's a question to their reliability so I've never purchased any.
    That Winchester is my kind of gun. Something I'd actually use.

    How many rounds per magazine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    That Winchester is my kind of gun. Something I'd actually use.

    How many rounds per magazine?
    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    My AR-10 mags are 20 and 25 rounds, but the 308 Winchester round is considerably larger than the 5.56, so the 308 round takes up more space.


    The 308 Winchester is the round/cartridge/bullet. The AR-10 is the gun. It's an AR that takes the 308 Winchester or 7.62 x 51 NATO rounds. Magpul produces magazines that take 10 rounds, 20 rounds and 25 rounds, and they also have a 50 round drum. Most of my magazines are 25 rounds although I do have a 20 round magazine, and I'm not quite sure if that's the first mag I bought for the rifle, or if I mistakenly bought it later, since I'm almost always buying magazines and ammo for my guns, especially when they're on sale.

    What I was saying was the 308 Winchester/7.62x51 NATO round is larger than the AR-15s 5.56 NATO/223 round, so the magazine capacities for the AR-10 will be smaller than the AR-15 since the 308 round takes up more space.

    If you're scared of the AR-15, you'll be absolutely terrified of the AR-10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post

    If you're scared of the AR-15, you'll be absolutely terrified of the AR-10.
    10 is way lees than 15, so it must be less dangerous and scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post


    The 308 Winchester is the round/cartridge/bullet. The AR-10 is the gun. It's an AR that takes the 308 Winchester or 7.62 x 51 NATO rounds. Magpul produces magazines that take 10 rounds, 20 rounds and 25 rounds, and they also have a 50 round drum. Most of my magazines are 25 rounds although I do have a 20 round magazine, and I'm not quite sure if that's the first mag I bought for the rifle, or if I mistakenly bought it later, since I'm almost always buying magazines and ammo for my guns, especially when they're on sale.

    What I was saying was the 308 Winchester/7.62x51 NATO round is larger than the AR-15s 5.56 NATO/223 round, so the magazine capacities for the AR-10 will be smaller than the AR-15 since the 308 round takes up more space.

    If you're scared of the AR-15, you'll be absolutely terrified of the AR-10.
    Got it. My grandfather had a 308 hunting rifle. So I guess that was referring to the calibre when they said 'taking the 308 out". I'm comfortable with that and the pow pow pow sound. In West Virginia what I hate to hear is a quick spray of bullets in the forest.

    My understanding is that military weapons are full automatic and not available for the average folk, even in the US.

    The only military weapons I have shot were in Vietnam, recently. Military tourism. Lol. Can't remember what it was but definitely not an AK-47. Much louder and I wore ear protection

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pony View Post
    10 is way lees than 15, so it must be less dangerous and scary.
    Smaller guage = larger bullet

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post

    My understanding is that military weapons are full automatic and not available for the average folk, even in the US.
    You can get them, but you need a special licence that's very expensive and relatively hard to get. So basically you're correct. The "average" person cannot possess a full auto.

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    Aside from my AR, I buy all lever action rifles..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    Aside from my AR, I buy all lever action rifles..
    All lever action? No bolt action?


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    My weapon of choice is a side-by side, single shot, semi-auto, over-under, lever action pistol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh One Who Knocks View Post
    My weapon of choice is a side-by side, single shot, semi-auto, over-under, lever action pistol


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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    All lever action? No bolt action?
    No bolts as of yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    Aside from my AR, I buy all lever action rifles..
    https://www.google.com/search?q=leve...obile&ie=UTF-8


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh One Who Knocks View Post
    My weapon of choice is a side-by side, single shot, semi-auto, over-under, lever action pistol
    https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=...ih=674&dpr=3.5


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