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That we agree on
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Music was better when ugly people were allowed to make it.
Pony (05-29-2022)
should call it 'debate' instead
Do you remember what you were going to post? Can you retype it?
I promise I'll argue with you some more if you do.
I mailed the Uvalde PD a Dunkin Donuts gift card today, along with a note expressing my thoughts about them.
DemonGeminiX (05-31-2022), Pony (05-31-2022), Teh One Who Knocks (06-20-2022)
Wow, the NY Post is trash
Pony (05-31-2022)
Uvalde police, school district no longer cooperating with Texas probe of shooting
ABC News
The Uvalde Police Department and the Uvalde Independent School District police force are no longer cooperating with the Texas Department of Public Safety's investigation into the massacre at Robb Elementary School and the state's review of the law enforcement response, multiple law enforcement sources tell ABC News.
A spokesman for Texas DPS, which is running the state's investigations, declined to comment.
The Uvalde police chief and a spokesperson for the Uvalde Independent School District did not immediately respond to requests for comment from ABC News.
According to sources, the decision to stop cooperating occurred soon after the director of DPS, Col. Steven McCraw, held a news conference Friday during which he said the delayed police entry into the classroom was "the wrong decision" and contrary to protocol.
The attack, one of the worst school shootings in U.S. history, left 19 children and two adults dead.
By Ryan Saavedra - The Daily Wire
A highly disturbing video has emerged showing the man who shot up a Texas Elementary School last week holding up a bag of blood-soaked dead cats.
The video shows the 18-year-old Latino shooter who murdered 19 children smiling while holding up the bag, according to video footage obtained by the New York Post, which was so graphic that the publication had to blur out the bag.
The Daily Wire is not showing the video or using the attacker’s name due to company policy about not giving those responsible for mass casualty events the notoriety that they crave.
The attacker “is seen smiling in the undated footage while sitting in the passenger seat of a pal’s car — holding up a clear plastic bag with at least two bloodied cats visible inside,” the New York Post reported. “The sicko was previously rumored to have had a fascination with dead cats and had threatened to kidnap, kill and rape girls who shunned him online.”
David Trevino Jr., who is related to the shooter’s grandmother by marriage, told the New York Post that the attacker was known for harming animals.
“The shooter was known for hurting cats,” he said. “He liked hurting animals. I’m told he killed the cats and carried around the bag of bodies for s–ts and giggles.”
“The video shows he was not right in the head,” he continued. “He’s not all there. The video raises all sorts of red flags.”
Hurting animals in the state of Texas is a felony, a charge that would have automatically barred the attacker from being able to purchase the guns that he used during the tragedy.
“He would go to the park and try to pick on people and he loved hurting animals,” one of the attacker’s high school classmates said in an interview. “I remember there was one time we saw him beating a little dog senseless.”
A second classmate made similar claims, saying that the attacker “would hurt animals” and that he was “not a good person.”
The attacker “was a boy who was not bullied,” he said. “He would try to pick on people and fail and it would aggravate him.”
“A lot of people who knew him, we knew he wasn’t mentally healthy,” he added. “And a lot of people could agree that we probably should’ve said something.”
lost in melb. (06-01-2022)
don't fuck with cats
Video Shows Police Never Tried To Open Door To Get In Texas Classroom Where Shooter Was, Report Says
By Ryan Saavedra - The Daily Wire
Law enforcement officials reportedly never tried to open the door at a Texas elementary school last month where a shooter murdered 19 children.
“Surveillance footage shows that police never tried to open a door to two classrooms at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde in the 77 minutes between the time a gunman entered the rooms and massacred 21 people and officers finally breached the door and killed him,” the San Antonio Express-News reported, noting that the information came from a law enforcement official who was involved in investigating law enforcement’s response to the tragedy. “Investigators believe the 18-year-old gunman who killed 19 children and two teachers at the school on May 24 could not have locked the door to the connected classrooms from the inside.”
The doors are reportedly designed so they can only be locked or unlocked from the outside, and police might have assumed that the door was locked. The report said that it is not known if the door to the classroom where the 18-year-old Hispanic male was holed up was even locked.
The source told the local newspaper that it didn’t even matter whether the door was locked because “officers had access the entire time to a ‘halligan’ — a crowbar-like tool that could have opened the door to the classrooms even if it was locked.”
The news comes as a report from The New York Times revealed that a law enforcement official with the city, not the school district, who was armed with an AR-15 style rifle had the opportunity to shoot the attacker before he entered the school but didn’t because he hesitated over fear that he might hit kids in the background.
“The chief deputy sheriff said that any attempt to shoot the moving gunman would have been difficult, and that the officer would undoubtedly have faced harsh criticism and possibly even a criminal investigation had he missed and hit a bystander in the distance, especially a child,” the report noted.
Uvalde CISD Police Chief Pete Arredondo arrived on scene without having a radio at 11:35 a.m. as at least two responding officers were already moving into the hallway outside the classroom door where the attacker was located. Arredondo used a cell phone to call the police department to ask for a radio, a rifle, and heavily-armed backup.
“The decision to establish a perimeter outside the classroom, a little over five minutes after the shooting began, shifted the police response from one in which every officer would try to confront the gunman as fast as possible to one where officers treated the gunman as barricaded and no longer killing,” The New York Times reported. “Instead of storming the classroom, a decision was made to deploy a negotiator and to muster a more heavily armed and shielded tactical entry force.”
Bill Francis, a former FBI agent who was a senior leader on the bureau’s hostage rescue team for 17 years, told the Times that officials “made a poor decision defining that as a hostage-barricade situation” because “the longer you delay in finding and eliminating that threat, the longer he has to continue to kill other victims.”
By Amanda Prestigiacomo - The Daily Wire
The head of the Texas Department of Public Safety on Tuesday called the police response to the Uvalde school shooting an “abject failure,” adding that the shooter could have been apprehended within three minutes of entering Robb Elementary School as officers waited for “a key that was not needed.”
An 18-year-old male, who will not be named per Daily Wire policy, killed 19 students and two teachers at the elementary school on May 24.
“There’s compelling evidence that the law enforcement response to the attack at Robb Elementary was an abject failure and antithetical to everything we’ve learned over the last two decades since the Columbine massacre,” said Col. Steve McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety.
“Three minutes after the subject entered the West building, there was sufficient number of armed officers wearing body armor to isolate, distract, and neutralize the subject,” McCraw continued. “The only thing stopping the hallway of dedicated officers from entering room 111 and 112 was the on-scene commander who decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of children.”
“One error; 14 minutes and eight seconds,” the director said of the young students waiting in a classroom for police to save them.
McCraw said officers were, in part, waiting for a “key that was not needed.”
“I have great reasons to believe it was never secured,” he testified. “How about trying the door and seeing if it’s locked?”
“Obviously, not enough training was done in this situation, plain and simple. Because terrible decisions were made by the on-site commander,” McCraw blasted.
The response to the tragedy has been heavily scrutinized. One mother claimed she was briefly handcuffed by U.S. Marshals before she ran into the school herself to save her two children.
“The police were doing nothing,” mother Angeli Rose Gomez accused, according to The Wall Street Journal. “They were just standing outside the fence. They weren’t going in there or running anywhere.”
Gomez said “she was one of numerous parents waiting outside the school who began encouraging— first politely, and then with more urgency — police and other law enforcement to enter the school sooner,” the Journal report outlined. “After a few minutes, she said, U.S. Marshals put her in handcuffs, telling her she was being arrested for intervening in an active investigation.”
Desperate to reach her children, the mother said she was able to convince local Uvalde officers whom she knew to get the marshals to un-cuff her.
“Once freed from her cuffs, Ms. Gomez made her distance from the crowd, jumped the school fence, and ran inside to grab her two children,” the report detailed. “She sprinted out of the school with them.”
A spokesman for the U.S. Marshals Service has denied to the Journal that any parents were put in handcuffs.
DemonGeminiX (06-22-2022), Pony (06-23-2022)
wtf?
“Three minutes after the subject entered the West building, there was sufficient number of armed officers wearing body armor to isolate, distract, and neutralize the subject,” McCraw continued.
Every single person involved in this clusterfuck needs to be brought up on criminal charges.
DemonGeminiX (06-23-2022), Pony (06-23-2022)
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