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    Notice U.K. Court Orders ISP to Block Alleged Piracy Site

    By Damon Poeter - PC Mag




    A British court on Thursday ordered U.K. Internet service provider BT to block access to members-only file-sharing site Newzbin 2—a victory for the Motion Picture Association (MPA), which brought the case against a website it accused of distributing pirated movies, but also a ruling that already has Internet freedom advocates up in arms.

    "In my judgment it follows that BT has actual knowledge of other persons using its service to infringe copyright: it knows that the users and operators of Newzbin 2 infringe copyright on a large scale, and in particular infringe the copyrights of the studios in large numbers of their films and television programs," Justice Arnold stated in a high court ruling that can be read in full here.

    The ruling marks the first time a U.K. ISP has been ordered to block access to such a site, according to the BBC.

    The British ISP was ordered to block its users from accessing Newzbin 2 using CleanFeed, a website-blocking application that in the U.K. has been used by ISPs to block access to child pornography.

    BT reportedly said it would not appeal the ruling. The ISP and the MPA were scheduled to return to court in October to solidify how the site-blocking would be carried out.

    In a round-up of reactions to the ruling published by the Guardian Thursday, advocates for either side of the debate over piracy, censorship, and net neutrality were quick to point out the potential far-reaching impact of the high court decision.

    While representatives of industry trade groups like British Phonographic Industry chief executive Geoff Taylor called the ruling "a clear signal that ISPs have a role to play in protecting their customers from rogue websites," opponents were troubled by the impact of the court's judgment.

    "This is a terrible day for ordinary British Internet users," the Guardian quoted Pirate Party U.K. leader Loz Kaye as saying. "The judgment sets a worrying precedent for Internet censorship. This is the thin end of a very large wedge. It also leaves the coalition [government]'s Internet policy in disarray. It appears that our digital rights are to be determined by Hollywood, not parliament."

    Added Peter Bradwell of the Open Rights Group: "Website blocking is pointless and dangerous. These judgments won't work to stop infringement or boost creative industries. And there are serious risks of legitimate content being blocked and service slowdown. If the goal is boosting creators' ability to make money from their work then we need to abandon these technologically naive measures, focus on genuine market reforms, and satisfy unmet consumer demand."

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    why just pick on this one site tbh i'd never heard of it till this court case

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    probably a random choice for a pilot case. I suppose they had particularly solid evidence about the copyright infractions and wanted to test the ground with one case. Now that they have been successful, I bet they'll flood the ISPs with similar requests.

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    i can see traffic going up on this site now as,people like myself will go there to see what it's all about

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    If the ISPs perform the block soon enough, the extra publicity won't matter.

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    Cue Michael Stipe.. 'its the end of the world as we know it..'


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    You know I was thinking about all this pirating stuff here lately and it dawned on me. If I work for a major studio or label I would have suggested buying Rapidshare when it was at the top and just kept it running. At least then they could have still been making money. Kinda makes since. Most people pay for a service or two in order to download the files anyway so why not be the one getting paid. I guess it goes back to the old adage "if you cant beat them, join them."

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    To add to Jay's comment, here's something I was thinking about.I have a membership at a server type place...and I go to sites that provide links for TV shows and movies.
    I've read every bit of text both at the server place as well as every time someone uploads a handful of links for my Brady Bunch reruns.

    Not once.......................did I see anything that said I was engaging in an illegal practice.May be something to remember if things get invasive..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fricnjay View Post
    You know I was thinking about all this pirating stuff here lately and it dawned on me. If I work for a major studio or label I would have suggested buying Rapidshare when it was at the top and just kept it running. At least then they could have still been making money. Kinda makes since. Most people pay for a service or two in order to download the files anyway so why not be the one getting paid. I guess it goes back to the old adage "if you cant beat them, join them."
    excellent point. Even if we take a wider perspective beyond sharehosters such as rapidshare et al., it seems to me that both the music and the movie industry made a huge mistake when they didn't come up with a convenient, handy and reasonably priced download option (or even several) once broadband access became widely available for consumers. They made an insane amount of money when the CD and then the DVD hit the market because people would buy their back catalogues all over again. They were so busy raking in all that cash that they forgot to think about the next step at all.

    By now millions of people are used to downloading all they want without having to pay and they also know where to find the stuff they want. These people are probably lost to the industry as paying customers, it's like the genie out of the bottle.All they can hope for is that the people who use itunes or the amazon music store will go on doing that and younger kids won't even start looking for illegal sources because the legal ones are convenient and cool, even if they're overpriced.

    As far as movies and tv are concerned, it's going to be even more difficult for the industry to reel the freeloaders back in. Look at the european market, for example. People who want to watch current tv shows from the US or britain in the original version can't get them legally in most countries, only the dumbass dubbed versions. So even if I'm willing to pay a few euros for a movie or an episode of a good show, they basically turn away my money. Do they expect people to wait until the DVDs are out? How dub is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady Renko View Post
    They were so busy raking in all that cash that they forgot to think about the next step at all.
    bingo x1000

    happens all too often.

    I could make a few analogies

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