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    Law Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade in landmark opinion

    By Ronn Blitzer , Kelly Laco | Fox News




    The Supreme Court on Friday overturned Roe v. Wade, effectively ending recognition of a constitutional right to abortion and giving individual states the power to allow, limit, or ban the practice altogether.

    The ruling came in the court's opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which centered on a Mississippi law that banned abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The Republican-led state of Mississippi asked the Supreme Court to strike down a lower court ruling that stopped the 15-week abortion ban from taking place.

    "We end this opinion where we began. Abortion presents a profound moral question. The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion. Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives," Justice Samuel Alito wrote in the court's opinion.

    The opinion comes after a leak of a draft opinion from February striking down Roe caused nationwide debate and promoted pro-choice activist protests at the homes of the six conservative justices. In addition, dozens of pro-life pregnancy centers were vandalized since the opinion leak, Catholic churches were targeted for protests and unrest, and a suspect was charged with attempted murder for allegedly trying to assassinate Justice Brett Kavanaugh.



    The high court heard oral arguments in the case in December 2021. Mississippi Solicitor General Scott Stewart argued in support of the law. He also argued that two landmark abortion cases that kept state governments from prohibiting abortions at certain points during a pregnancy – Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey – be overturned.

    Pro-life advocates believe that the state is the best forum for debate over abortion restrictions, and see the overturn of Roe as the rightful return of the issue to the states.



    At least 13 Republican-led states have already passed "trigger laws," in the event Roe is overturned, that would immediately restrict access to abortion if the Supreme Court went so far as to overturn the 50-year precedent.

    Georgia, Iowa, Ohio and South Carolina all have laws banning abortions after the six-week mark, which have been ruled unconstitutional but would likely be revisited if Roe is overturned, the Guttmacher Institute, a pro-abortion research group, has reported.

    On the other hand, pro-choice advocates will have to work to codify Roe or enact looser abortion restrictions by passing state-level legislation.

    New York passed a bill in 2018 designed to codify Roe, and other blue states are expected to follow suit after the Supreme Court's ruling.

    Public opinion polling has also indicated that despite that more than six in 10 registered voters think the court should uphold Roe, the majority of Americans are in favor of some restrictions on abortion.



    When Americans were asked in a recent Fox News poll about how they would feel if a law banning abortions after 15 weeks were passed in their state, just over half of voters favor it (54%) while 41% are opposed.

    At the federal level, the Senate failed to advance a bill to codify federal abortion protections in Roe v. Wade in the week following the leaked draft.

    Vice President Kamala Harris presided over the vote on the Women’s Health Protection Act. It needed 60 votes to advance but died in a 51 to 49 tally, with West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin joining with all 50 Republicans in voting no.

    President Biden immediately condemned Republicans for blocking the abortion rights legislation at a time when "women’s constitutional rights are under unprecedented attack." He called on voters to elect more Democrats in November so that the legislation can get passed next year.



    Democratic campaign arms have already signaled that abortion will be a key issue heading into the midterms and will galvanize their base. Republicans are largely convinced that "sanctity of life" issues will spark renewed enthusiasm for conservative candidates in state-level elections.

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    Update Multiple States Ban Abortion After SCOTUS Ruling

    By Ryan Saavedra - The Daily Wire


    Multiple Republican-controlled states moved to immediately ban abortions following the Supreme Court’s decision Friday to overturn Roe v. Wade.

    “First, 13 states with ‘trigger bans,’ designed to take effect as soon as Roe is overturned, will ban abortion within 30 days,” The Washington Post reported. “Several other states where recent antiabortion legislation has been blocked by the courts are expected to act next, with lawmakers moving to activate their dormant legislation. A handful of states also have pre-Roe abortion bans that could be brought back to life.”

    States with “trigger bans” include Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Texas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Kentucky.

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    The actual full ruling if anyone wants to read it:

    The Daily Wire Dobbs, State... by Timothy Meads


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    Democrats Explode After Supreme Court Makes It Harder To Kill Unborn Babies

    By Ryan Saavedra - The Daily Wire




    Democrats and other far-left activists erupted Friday afternoon after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade.

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) led chants outside the Supreme Court, falsely claiming that the ruling from the nation’s highest court was “illegitimate” and encouraging activists to take to “the streets.”

    The extreme remarks from Ocasio-Cortez come after a left-wing extremist was arrested outside the home of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh for allegedly trying to assassinate the judge.

    Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said during her press conference that there was “no point in saying ‘good morning,’ because it certainly is not one.”

    Pelosi went on to make false claims about what the ruling means for other issues related to pregnancy, as noted by legal scholar Jonathan Turley.

    Far-left activist Cameron Kasky appeared to encourage even more extreme action, tweeting: “Go to the home of every Supreme Court justice who just voted to kill women. Let them know how you feel.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh One Who Knocks View Post
    It won't stop abortions. Well... wealthy Republicans will be able to get them easily.

    It'll be interesting in 15 years or so when a new generation of unwanted children become gang bangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    It won't stop abortions. Well... wealthy Republicans will be able to get them easily.

    It'll be interesting in 15 years or so when a new generation of unwanted children become gang bangers.
    What a load of bullshit. Did you even read the article or the decision? Did you actually understand it if you did? What this does is just strikes down the Roe vs Wade decision which was decided in court. It should never have been decided there in the first place. Courts are not legislators, they have no power to create law where no law existed, and they never should have handed down this ruling. There is no Constitutional right to abortion. Vacating Roe vs Wade puts the abortion decision back in the hands of the state legislatures, where it belongs. States with pro-abortion laws will remain pro-abortion, and states with anti-abortion laws will remain anti-abortion. Nothing will change until a state legislature changes their laws. If a pregnant woman wants to have an abortion and she lives in an anti-abortion state, then she can just go to a pro-abortion state and murder her baby there.


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    we still allow baby killing here, all are welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    What a load of bullshit. Did you even read the article or the decision? Did you actually understand it if you did? What this does is just strikes down the Roe vs Wade decision which was decided in court. It should never have been decided there in the first place. Courts are not legislators, they have no power to create law where no law existed, and they never should have handed down this ruling. There is no Constitutional right to abortion. Vacating Roe vs Wade puts the abortion decision back in the hands of the state legislatures, where it belongs. States with pro-abortion laws will remain pro-abortion, and states with anti-abortion laws will remain anti-abortion. Nothing will change until a state legislature changes their laws. If a pregnant woman wants to have an abortion and she lives in an anti-abortion state, then she can just go to a pro-abortion state and murder her baby there.

    Next up: the right to marriage equality, contraception, interracial marriage, same-sex relations and anal sex.

    All to be decided by your local government. This will be bad for Republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    What a load of bullshit. Did you even read the article or the decision? Did you actually understand it if you did? What this does is just strikes down the Roe vs Wade decision which was decided in court. It should never have been decided there in the first place. Courts are not legislators, they have no power to create law where no law existed, and they never should have handed down this ruling. There is no Constitutional right to abortion. Vacating Roe vs Wade puts the abortion decision back in the hands of the state legislatures, where it belongs. States with pro-abortion laws will remain pro-abortion, and states with anti-abortion laws will remain anti-abortion. Nothing will change until a state legislature changes their laws. If a pregnant woman wants to have an abortion and she lives in an anti-abortion state, then she can just go to a pro-abortion state and murder her baby there.
    It is interesting however, as one would think it might affect the poorest in society most, if they can't afford to travel, they can't afford to get rid of kids, that they can't afford.
    It'll bolster ghettos, one feels. We'll see.
    You country you cna make and overturn whatever laws you like.

    I did say previously my view is different, I think there are far too many humans on the world, and if someone really doesn't want one, then get rid of it before it is born.



    What is this related to, I've seen this posted elsewhere, and don't know the actual source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    Next up: the right to marriage equality, contraception, interracial marriage, same-sex relations and anal sex.

    All to be decided by your local government. This will be bad for Republicans.
    You know what... I'm gonna take that back. If any make up of the Supreme Court has ruled that a right not explicitly defined by the Constitution and without a particularly defined law against it being challenged, then that ruling shouldn't exist. So if marriage equality, contraception, interracial marriage (I sincerely doubt that anyone would outlaw this one at this point in time), and the sex things (again, sincerely doubt anyone wants legislate what goes on somebody's bedroom in this day and age) were decided by the court without there being a law forbidding it, then that ruling should be vacated.

    Let Congress create a law, or let the individual States create a law. THE COURT CANNOT LEGISLATE FROM THE BENCH. IT IS NOT THEIR JOB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    Oh, Christ. Don't be ridiculous.
    They were allowed through SCOTUS. Why not turn the others over to the states using the same argument as above? Why just abortion and not the others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    Next up: the right to marriage equality, contraception, interracial marriage, same-sex relations and anal sex.

    All to be decided by your local government. This will be bad for Republicans.
    I dunno if you're taking the mick or not. If you're serious, ill boil it all down for you:

    The Supreme Court decided that the federal government has no say in abortion under the constitution.
    Rightly so. Theres a pesky little ppartof our constitution that specifically limits the powers of the federal government. In a nutshell it states that anything NOT delineated in the Constitution, does in fact belong to the states.

    What all you people (non US Citizens, or worse, recent products of the education system) don't under stand is that the USA is NOT a democracy. We are in fact a Republic.

    There are clear definitions of what falls under the Federal purview. ANYTHING else is up to the many states.

    If people that live in a states (I'm one) thT will henceforth ban abortion, then get out your voter card and start paying attention to your local city, county and state governments. THATS how you get shit changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    They were allowed through SCOTUS. Why not turn the others over to the states using the same argument as above? Why just abortion and not the others?
    Look up, I edited.


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