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    Stupid Trump claims grounds for "termination" of U.S. Constitution

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    Washington — Former President Donald Trump fueled controversy over the weekend by suggesting that parts of the U.S. Constitution should face "termination." It was just the latest in a series of words and deeds from the former leader that have Republicans grasping for how to respond to a man who still commands significant public support, but whose extreme views continue to drift further away from mainstream American politics.

    Trump's latest comments, issued Saturday in a post on his "Truth Social" media platform, came in response to a report by journalist Matt Taibbi that showed Twitter employees deliberating in October 2020 about how to handle a New York Post article about a laptop belonging to President Biden's son Hunter Biden. Taibbi reported that both the Biden campaign and the Trump White House had communicated with Twitter about content on the platform.



    Trump claimed the conversations between Twitter and political officials had revealed "a massive fraud" so serious that it "allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution."

    Trump also called again for a redo of the 2020 election, renewing his false claim to have won the vote. Trump has kept up a steady drumbeat of false statements about that election, despite his own officials telling him, and the nation, months ago that it was not "stolen," as he claims.

    His rhetoric drew immediate, sharp condemnation from Democrats, with New York Senator Chuck Schumer calling Trump "out of control and a danger to our democracy."

    Some Republicans were also critical, including Representative–elect Mike Lawler of New York, who said on CNN that he "certainly" did not "endorse that language or that sentiment."

    "I vehemently disagree with, with the statement that Trump has made," GOP Rep. Mike Turner of Ohio said on CBS' "Face the Nation," calling it one of "1,000 statements in which I disagree" with the former president.

    But any political cost for Trump, as he ramps up his 2024 presidential campaign remained unclear, as some GOP members appeared to be taking a wait and see approach.

    Rep. David Joyce, a Republican from Ohio, said on ABC News that he would "support whoever the Republican nominee is... and I just don't think that, at this point, he [Trump] will be able to get there."

    Even Turner, who said he "absolutely" condemned the latest remarks from Trump, stressed that "there is a political process that has to go forward before anybody's a front-runner or anybody is a, even the candidate for the party... I believe, answering your question, that people certainly are going to take into consideration a statement like this as they evaluate a candidate."

    The latest firestorm comes as the Republican Party continues dealing with the fallout from a recent dinner that Trump hosted with white nationalist Nick Fuentes and Ye, the rapper formerly known as Kanye West, who has made a litany of antisemitic comments.

    That dinner, and Trump's post about the constitution on social media, have left his party grappling with how to handle his attempted political comeback. And it all comes as Trump faces multiple federal and state investigations, and as the House's January 6th committee prepares to issue a sweeping report that will shine a light on the former president's conduct during the attack on the capitol.

    Rep. Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat and one of the leading members of that committee, told CBS News on Sunday that the report could form the basis of a prosecution of Trump, "a guy who would not take no for an answer from the American people and set about to overthrow an election."

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    Sorry, Donald: Here are the real takeaways from the Twitter Files

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    Leave it to ex-President Donald Trump to present exactly the wrong takeaway from the Twitter Files: “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” he posted Friday night.

    No, it doesn’t. In fact, the Constitution was written with full awareness of humanity’s imperfections, including election cheating (which is as old as democracy itself). The Electoral College count is the final word, no matter how messy the process that leads to it.

    The nation couldn’t function if elections didn’t truly end, and the Founding Fathers were practical idealists. Heck, they gathered to write the Constitution (for ratification by the 13 sovereign states) precisely because the nation’s then-government, under the Articles of Confederation, wasn’t working. All the nation’s later political woes, even the Civil War, would sadden but not surprise them.

    That is, in a (completely imaginary) world where Trump somehow today finally produced actual proof of all his wild 2020 ballot box-stuffing claims, Joe Biden would still be our legitimate president (though it’d certainly bring a vast political firestorm).

    Not to mention the simple fact that neither Twitter nor the rest of the mainstream media (social and old-school) did anything illegal in suppressing our Hunter Biden laptop reporting: They simply failed their own expressed principles (not remotely for the first or last time). Americans’ rights to a free press, and free speech, allow for all manner of mis- and even dis-information.



    Similarly, the 51 top former intelligence officials whose (transparently disingenuous) letter suggesting the laptop was “Russian disinformation” stand revealed as partisan political hacks, not (for this, anyway) as criminals.

    It’s entirely possible that the active-duty FBI agents who prepared the ground for the suppression were engaged in criminal activity, abusing the powers of their office — but that still wouldn’t make Trump the 2020 winner.

    Knowledge today of other 2020 dirty tricks, like the Zuckerberg family’s abusive “charitable giving” to boost turnout overwhelmingly in heavily Democratic areas, doesn’t change the result, either — even if could be shown to have cost Trump the election.

    It can’t be, by the way, any more than we can know if honest coverage by other media of the laptop revelations would’ve turned the election. The inherent limits of what we can know about such things are among the many reasons the Founders made the Electoral College count, as ratified by Congress, the final word. (They made provisions, incidentally, for what to do if the College didn’t produce a winner: See the elections of 1800 and 1824.)

    Trump’s welcome to take the news as reason to feel even more aggrieved. For everyone else, the real takeaways here include the need for:

    • 1) Proper investigations of what the laptop tells us — e.g., did Joe “Big Guy” Biden do anything in exchange for the millions showered on Hunter & Co. (besides give face time to a host of unsavory characters)? Did he later take any actions for fear of blackmail?
    • 2) A thorough look at government insiders’ efforts to (mis)direct media coverage.
    • 3) Lowered trust in the mainstream media generally (already well underway).
    • 4) Thundering condemnation of Twitter’s then-management’s failure to live up to its professed mission “to give everyone the power to create and share ideas and information instantly without barriers,” Facebook’s fails on “Better connecting you with the pages and groups you care about,” the New York Times’ lapses on “All the news that’s fit to print,” the Washington Post’s hypocrisy on “Democracy dies in darkness” and so on.

    As for us: We’re confident Alexander Hamilton would be OK with our political reporting, and would be an avid reader of Page Six. And he’d outright laugh at all the whining now about how our reporting helped boost New York Republicans in the last election.

    P.S.: We’re also still outraged at the suppression of our early commentary on the possibility that COVID started at that Wuhan lab. But we’re not demanding any do-overs — we just want the rest of the press to do better next time.

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    Look, I'll be the first one to tell you that we need to seriously amend the Constitution, but this guy's just outing himself as a megalomaniac at this point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    Look, I'll be the first one to tell you that we need to seriously amend the Constitution, but this guy's just outing himself as a megalomaniac at this point.
    Yup, he's fucking nuts.

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    I guess one good thing about this crazy talk is that there's no way he'll win the republican primaries now. Other than the very fringe element, I can't imagine anyone supporting this way of thinking.

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    i would say don't count him out yet...

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    I've been chewing on his tweet for a little while and I'm thinking that the media's spinning it into something other than what he intended.


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    Keep chewing. And chewing. Then chew some more. Maybe that will make swallowing his latest bullshit sandwich more palatable.

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    Bread and wine are having a resurgence....


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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    I've been chewing on his tweet for a little while and I'm thinking that the media's spinning it into something other than what he intended.
    I honestly don't think so, I think he fancies himself like one of those South American dictators 'saviors' that come in and save the day for the country while installing themselves as president for life by suspending the rule of law. Ever since he lost in '20, he's gone so far off the deep end you would need one of those special deep sea submarines to find him.

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    Posted by Trump on his Truth Social app earlier today....can't wait

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    Maybe he is going to endorse DeSantis






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    Quote Originally Posted by PorkChopSandwiches View Post
    Maybe he is going to endorse DeSantis

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