Kelly Preston: Scientology Helped Me Overcome Son Jett's Death

[AntZ]

Everyone is entitled to believe as they wish, here in America anyway. It's one of the fundamental principles of our society and we should respect that.

Interesting!

Weren't you the one that wrote some rather nasty words directed at the family with 19 kids and their beliefs, over at AS. when the last kid was born?

It's nice to see that your beliefs have changed!

[DemonGeminiX]

This thread needs a clambake.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

This thread needs a clambake.

[Hal-9000]

I can only say one thing...

If my child needed medical attention they would get it.If a person has a treatable condition, it is not part of God's plan that they die.

IMO

[minz]

So how come they were never charged with causing his death by neglect?

[DemonGeminiX]

So how come they were never charged with causing his death by neglect?

Money talks.

[Southern Belle]

Sadly,there are Christian cults that don't believe in using drugs for treatment.
That wouldn't stop me from getting the best care for my child that I could find. Which is telling in the fact that they could approve the best health care money could buy.

[JoeyB]

I'm starting a religion where I believe that the font color on the internet should ONLY be black.

That's racist. It's African-American font.

So it should be okay to believe in something that contributes to the death of a minor child, when that death didn't need to occur? And then publicly act all distraught over it when it all could have been prevented?

Lance, this is a massive issue that I cannot address in brevity, nor will I address it when the question posed is so obviously coming from anger and not reason. Don't take that the wrong way.

Interesting!

Weren't you the one that wrote some rather nasty words directed at the family with 19 kids and their beliefs, over at AS. when the last kid was born?

It's nice to see that your beliefs have changed!

My beliefs have not changed. They are entitled to believe as they wish, and I believe they are wrong and potentially dangerous. This thread had no counter balance, I presented it, when a discussion of the Duggers turned fawning and flowery, I was pointing out a dark side. Whats the problem here Antz, other than that I have obviously become your pet project.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Lance, this is a massive issue that I cannot address in brevity, nor will I address it when the question posed is so obviously coming from anger and not reason. Don't take that the wrong way.

Seems to be a pretty simple question to me, and it was a serious question not posed out of any anger at all. Either you believe it's okay to let your minor child in your care die from something treatable because of something you choose to believe in, or you don't. No grey area at all.

Your decision not to answer is an answer in itself. That's enough for me.

[JoeyB]

Seems to be a pretty simple question to me, and it was a serious question not posed out of any anger at all. Either you believe it's okay to let your minor child in your care die from something treatable because of something you choose to believe in, or you don't. No grey area at all.

Your decision not to answer is an answer in itself. That's enough for me.

You interpret it as an answer, but it was not. It's a remarkably complicated issue Lance, not one nearly as clear cut as you treat it. One that has ties to religious freedom, personal freedom, and freedom to determine what is and is not the best health care options. It also slams right up against the debate over who should determine what is best for a child, government or the parent. Blind adherence to modern medicine is a problem in itself, when modern medicine is nearly or sometimes more toxic than the disorders being treated. Once you force religious freedom away, you also condemn people to blindly accept anything medical that is current and fashionable. These are the tip of the iceberg issues that make this topic basically impossible to answer in a single post on a forum, and I will not take the hours involved (literally) to answer it properly when I sincerely believe that there is no point in doing so. You've clearly made your mind up, not only as to a general answer but as to the clear-cut nature of the issue, and I will not waste my day tilting at your windmills.

I will say, consider what I've said about those tip-of-the-iceberg points, and see how each unfolds into countless dilemmas and view points, and perhaps you'll see how complicated this is for yourself.

[Hal-9000]

So how come they were never charged with causing his death by neglect?

Money talks.

And there's a stipulation in the law that says the parent or guardian of a minor can refuse medical aid due to religion.

[minz]

And there's a stipulation in the law that says the parent or guardian of a minor can refuse medical aid due to religion.

Over here the courts will intervene if the patient is under 16.