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    Discussion H1B The Secret Weapon of America?

    Very interesting points made here.




    I'm interested to hear some thoughts and opinions here.

    Edit: This probably belongs in SFW video
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    I think we can listen to far better people on what creates prosperity rather than kooks like Kaku. If this were a lecture on QM I'd be all ears, but this guy tries to speak authoritatively on far too many things. Stick with your day job, Michio!

    Sure the H1Bs are a good thing. But our scientific establishment would collapse without them? Get back behind the blackboard where you belong, dude.

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    Michio is a Discovery channel sensationalist..

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    Not trying to start an argument here, but what he says is true. The vast majority of our top scientific minds in this nation came here on student visa's.

    But it's not specifically the educational systems fault, it's our society in general. From an early age it's programmed into us that the only thing that matters is acquiring money, not personal goals, or helping our society. It's all about the almighty dollar, and most scientific jobs pay shit.

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    So if 50-100% of PhD candidates are foreign born then they why are they coming here for their PhD? Clearly the educational systems in their home countries are better if they are producing so many gifted scientists. So why come here and ruin their already stellar education with "world's worst" science & education system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acid Trip View Post
    So if 50-100% of PhD candidates are foreign born then they why are they coming here for their PhD? Clearly the educational systems in their home countries are better if they are producing so many gifted scientists. So why come here and ruin their already stellar education with "world's worst" science & education system?
    You misunderstand what he means.

    Our higher educational channels are the best in the world, but our systems leading up to that point *k-12*, are among the worst.

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    He's right. It's been that way for a long time. I went to Georgia Tech in 97-98 and again in 2000-2001. I was pretty close to graduate students in several departments both times I was there. In 97-98, I can honestly say that maybe 5% of the graduate students were Americans. This is out of several departments, mind you: Physics, Mathematics, Computer Science, various Engineering programs, etc etc etc. In 2000-2001, I only knew 1 American graduate student out of multiple departments. The rest were all foreign-born. China, Russia, Korea (both North and South... yes you read that right... North Koreans were going to school at Georgia Tech on student visas), South American and Central American countries, African countries, and various European countries were represented. Georgia Tech prided themselves on the fact that their post baccalaureate programs were comprised of such diverse ethnic backgrounds.

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