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    well, I tried to get it back on track

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    Man, you sound like my parents and I was one of those kids - with pots and pans for toys.

    I had it hard, but not as hard as them. My younger sister is a soft as anything (but still studied hard enough to get into nursing)
    I didnt have it that hard really. Mom when she was young grew up on a substance farm. It still sorta was when I was very young. My point wasn't to say "look at me" but more that I've always believed, and still do, that anyone can still do well in the US. Its just a matter of figuout what you like, and how to make $$ on it. When I was younger, I thought all you had to do was work hard, and while there's still an aspect of that, I've known too many that have worked hard, but not gotten ahead. Usually that's by their personal habits, but thats a different discussion.

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    I know man, and what you say rings true. But I would suggest this isn't for everybody. I don't know if you got the results back from your drunk IQ test that I suggested not to post, lol. I'm betting you are in the orange range, above average (>100). As I imagine would be most people on the board. Trouble is, for every smart person there's a dumb person in the population it's just a statistical thing. And they can't do what you did. They lack the hardware, so there's no point trying to offer them alternative software. You basically can't change IQ. It's set. So all those people, particularly between 70 and 85 need to be taken care of. They can actually be productive but they need simpler tasks. They also might need more mentoring and guidance into adulthood.




    I know a bit about this, because it was part of my job. As a school psychologist I was the guy who got the dumb kids or the kids who couldn't concentrate or the kids failing their classes and didn't want to come to school. Often there are issues stemming from home abuse, parental break up or other socio-motional factors, but also sometimes they were just lacking in mental capacity. And I was the chap to tactfully measure this and break it to the school and break it to the parents (who are sometimes dumb themselves). I guess that's why I get impatient with people that maintain that those that don't want to go up the ladder are simply lazy. Sometimes it's the case, but sometimes they don't have the hardware - and never will. This notion that we are all born equal is a romantic one but not always true.

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    I should say it wasn't all glum. Overall IQ is divided into different parts. Often kids, particularly those with minority parents are lacking in verbal IQ, so they struggle to learn and fall behind due to poor receptive and expressive verbal skills. But their visuospatial and reasoning ears is normal or even above average. So they are smart. We can then find ways to accommodate that and get them back on track.

    Also if we get kids assessed early we can get them sidetracked into an alternative learning streams early on. Nothing more satisfactory than seeing a kid that was heading for the trash can thriving and working in an appropriate apprenticeship to match their mental skillset.

    This isn't just about IQ. Sometimes kids just hate academics. They get more satisfaction solving puzzles, doing things with their hands and dealing with real life tangible things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    This isn't just about IQ. Sometimes kids just hate academics. They get more satisfaction solving puzzles, doing things with their hands and dealing with real life tangible things.
    This as me. The only thing I wanted out of school was to be out of school. I felt school was holding me back.
    I was working 40 hours a week (half those hours on weekends) so never did my homework. Squeaked by by acing all my tests, which had most of my teachers assume I was cheating.
    While others were studying for the ACT or SAT, I was working and partying.
    When The ASVAB tests were announced I took that just to get out of class for the morning. My percentile score was so high I soon had recruiters bothering me and decided to see what the NAVY had for me. First thing they wanted was to send me for a weekend of tests, including an IQ (first one I had). They said there some anomalies and wanted me to take another IQ (which came back slightly higher than the first) so I reluctantly gave them another weekend. Apparently they saw me in a nuclear sub, but my poor school record, minor police record thwarting authority and lack of some social skills nixed that.
    Anyway, buried somewhere in the archives of the DOD is a file on me showing a 155 IQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin View Post
    This as me. The only thing I wanted out of school was to be out of school. I felt school was holding me back.
    I was working 40 hours a week (half those hours on weekends) so never did my homework. Squeaked by by acing all my tests, which had most of my teachers assume I was cheating.
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    When The ASVAB tests were announced I took that just to get out of class for the morning. My percentile score was so high I soon had recruiters bothering me and decided to see what the NAVY had for me. First thing they wanted was to send me for a weekend of tests, including an IQ (first one I had). They said there some anomalies and wanted me to take another IQ (which came back slightly higher than the first) so I reluctantly gave them another weekend. Apparently they saw me in a nuclear sub, but my poor school record, minor police record thwarting authority and lack of some social skills nixed that.
    Anyway, buried somewhere in the archives of the DOD is a file on me showing a 155 IQ.
    I was gonna add, once your IQ is over 140 you start going downhill (J/k). Yes, I wouldn't recommend working on a submarine unless you really like being around people


    My academic pattern was similar - minus the arrests. But once I hit University it was a different matter. And actually by the time I got to postgraduate I didn't feel particularly clever at all. Btw, I've been working on a honey bee farm this year. My blood pressure has dropped noticeably, possibly IQ as well, but that's ok.

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