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    The horror! I don't think I can internet any more today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    Where to begin?

    It's basically a joke. It's making fun of the cluelessness of antigunners. They think that AR-15s and the 5.56 round are the ultimate evil on the Earth, when in reality, they're just another round in another semi-automatic gun. They're by far neither the largest nor most devastating caliber out of all domestically available gun rounds.

    The "standard vs full semiautomatic" ding is a stupid mistake antigunners often make. It's either semiautomatic or fully automatic, fully automatic being illegal to buy and own in the USA without a massive tax stamp and a bunch of other flaming hoops to jump through... and unconstitutional, btw. They also mention the AR-10's 308 being a hunting round, when a lot of antigun politicians say you can't hunt with an AR-15, which is bullshit. A lot of people do hunt with them. I have an AR-15. And even though I haven't been out hunting with it, if I were to go hunting, it would be the first rifle that I'd pack for the excursion.

    The AR-10, while the "10" is a lower number, is another semiautomatic rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO/.308 Winchester, which are larger rounds that go faster and pack a way heavier punch than the AR-15's 5.56x45mm NATO/.223 Remington rounds. A lot of bolt-action rifles are chambered in .308. Great for hunting large game, although there are other calibers out there that are bigger and faster, and better in a lot of people's opinions. I'm thinking of the 7mm, the 8mm, the 6.5 Creedmore, and tons of others.... all bigger than the AR-15's 5.56, all faster and deadlier than the 5.56. My former neighbor used 8mm exclusively when he went hunting. Expensive rounds. But good rounds.

    If you wanted me to be honest, barring the 50 BMG caliber rifles from the conversation, I'd be more afraid of someone with a 12-gauge shotgun than someone with an AR-15. The 12 gauge is far more devastating and if you're using shotshells, then it doesn't take much to hit a target. Just point in the general direction and squeeze the trigger. But shotguns aren't as scary in most people's eyes since they don't look like military rifles. A lot of antigunners think that because something looks like a military rifle, that people shouldn't have them. There are rifles chambered in .22lr that look like military rifles, and while I wouldn't want to be shot by one, .22lr as a caliber is not that big of a deal. It's a small game caliber, like birds and squirrels and stuff like that. Honestly, I think a squirrel could shake off a .22, and flip you off in the process... but I digress. The rifles look evil, so they must be evil, or at least that's the antigunners' justification... which again is bullshit.

    So yeah... that's it.
    Thanks for that patient explanation DGX. Another example of why I come here.
    The whole gun argument for most Australians is bewildering, given that most don't own guns - or want to. Before the amnesty, when the Commonwealth Government accepted weapons and then destroyed them to reduce the number of guns in private hands in an effort to reduce the likelihood of gun massacres, I hazard that the vast majority of people owned guns for hunting. In Australia that more often means that they bought a 22 or a 'shotty' - a 12g or a 4/10 for rabbits or 'plinking' targets. When they grew tired of that activity or when it became a longer and longer drive to places where you could safely shoot the rabbits these weapons typically were forgotten in the back of the wardrobe until they were: 1. burglarised 2. sold on when the old bloke died. The Amnesty was called to divest the population of these weapons mostly but it also gathered up some 'military' guns which are basically useless or over-gunning for the type of game we have in most of Australia.

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