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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post


    Has an expansion team ever won the Stanley Cup in its first year?
    No expansion team has ever won ANY major sport championship.
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    People have been arguing about whether Vegas got gifted an overly generous expansion draft and this is all bullshit/luck, OR whether their management under George McPhee actually made the moves to deserve this.

    I'm mostly in the latter camp... they fleeced teams at the draft to get better/more picks... they traded a 4th round for Reilly Smith, saw potentially in Alex Tuch and got him for a 3rd rounder, they found Erik Haula and with a bigger role he put up basically as many points as his previous two seasons combined. Other teams flat out fucked up and GIFTED them insanely good players like James Neal and William Karlsson - what were the Preds and Blue Jackets thinking? Along the same lines, the Panthers never should've fired Gerard Gallant last year. Vegas also made moves to get a few decent additions like Tatar at the deadline. They went in with a set goal of building a certain type of speed-based team and read the direction of the league this year just right.

    I don't like this mentality people have that expansion teams need to absolutely blow for years to get better and 'let their fans suffer like us' (a particularly common feeling in Vancouver where we never win ).

    Maybe at the next expansion teams should get to protect one more player each, but I still think that given the same exact expansion draft almost no GM's could do what George McPhee has done, nor Gerard Gallant.
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    Well, the moves paid off. The Golden Knights are in the Stanley Cup finals and are waiting the outcome of the Lightning/Capitals series.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    Well, the moves paid off. The Golden Knights are in the Stanley Cup finals and are waiting the outcome of the Lightning/Capitals series.
    Amazing. I am hoping for long-suffering Capital's fans versus upstart Vegas fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post


    Has an expansion team ever won the Stanley Cup in its first year?
    The St Louis Blues made the Stanley Cup finals in their first year of existence. But, when the NHL expanded that year, all the expansion teams were dumped together into their own conference so one of those teams had to make the finals by default.

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    No expansion team has ever won ANY major sport championship.


    Just off the top of my head, the Arizona Diamondbacks have won the World Series, the Florida Marlins have too, twice as well as the NY Mets and the Toronto Blue Jays winning the World Series twice. Not to mention the Miami Heat and the Dallas Mavericks in the NBA along with the Milwaukee Bucks and the Cleveland Cavaliers. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the NFL. The Pittsburgh Penguins have won 5 Stanley Cups and the LA Kings in the NHL won the Stanley Cup 3 times as have the New Jersey Devils (who started life as the expansion Colorado Rockies before relocating). The Philadelphia Flyers have won the Cup twice. And the Tampa Bay Lightning have also won the Stanley Cup. And if you want to count the MLS, the Chicago Fire won the championship in their first year of existence when the MLS expanded for the first time.

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