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    Notice Canada unveils new cyber monitoring rules

    An article for our friends up North.

    Canada unveils new cyber monitoring rules
    Feb 14 03:32 PM US/Eastern

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

    Canada's government Tuesday introduced a bill to give law enforcement authorities sweeping powers to probe online communications, but the move sparked criticism about threats to privacy.

    "New technologies provide new ways of committing crimes, making them more difficult to investigate," Justice Minister Rob Nicholson told a press conference in unveiling the measure.

    "This legislation will enable authorities to keep pace with rapidly changing technology."

    Opposition parties and civil liberties groups, however, said new police powers contained in the bill could result in unreasonable searches and seizures.

    Privacy Commissioner Jennifer Stoddart, whose office is independent from the government, said in a letter to Public Safety Minister Vic Toews last October she had "deep concerns" about the proposed changes, which she said could have "serious repercussions for privacy rights."

    "I recognize that rapid developments in communication technologies are creating new challenges for law enforcement and national security authorities and that the Internet cannot be a lawless zone," Stoddart said.

    But "by expanding the legal tools of the state to conduct surveillance and access private information, and by reducing the depth of judicial scrutiny... (the bill would allow the) government to subject more individuals to surveillance and scrutiny."

    Further more it goes "far beyond simply maintaining investigative capacity or modernizing search powers. Rather, (it) added significant new capabilities for investigators to track, and search and seize digital information about individuals."

    The legislation would require telecommunications service providers to set up systems that allow police or Canada's spy service to intercept communications as part of their investigations.

    As well, they would be required to provide subscriber information to authorities and other data that would allow police to track suspects using a cell phone or a computer.

    Toews in parliament insisted the newest draft of the bill balances law enforcement needs and privacy rights, but Stoddart's office told AFP her concerns remain.

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    Sad

    They're introducing it as anti-child porn legislation and anyone who opposes it, the insinuation is that you are a pornography sympathizer or something.

    Sounds suspiciously like the reasoning given to invade certain countries. If you're for us, you're for freedom, if you're against, then you're ONE OF THEM....

    Our freedoms are eroding slowly and people are willing to trade their freedom for the illusion of security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noilly Pratt View Post
    They're introducing it as anti-child porn legislation and anyone who opposes it, the insinuation is that you are a pornography sympathizer or something.

    Sounds suspiciously like the reasoning given to invade certain countries. If you're for us, you're for freedom, if you're against, then you're ONE OF THEM....

    Our freedoms are eroding slowly and people are willing to trade their freedom for the illusion of security.
    Welcome to the wonderful world of politics!

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    and once again it's those corrupt, evil Republicans, oh wait,, sorry... wrong thread,,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Cranium View Post
    and once again it's those corrupt, evil Republicans, oh wait,, sorry... wrong thread,,
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    I'm having a really hard time defending the Conservatives on this one... this is some really twisted shit. "You're with us, or you're with the child pornographers" we're basically being told

    Once again, a new bill that makes average citizens into criminals. The Tories are just now getting rid of the Long Gun Registry, which they and us know, makes criminals out of average, law abiding Canadians (almost all gun crimes involve illegal firearms) and is a huge waste of money. But replacing it with this is FAR worse....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather View Post
    I'm having a really hard time defending the Conservatives on this one... this is some really twisted shit. "You're with us, or you're with the child pornographers" we're basically being told

    Once again, a new bill that makes average citizens into criminals. The Tories are just now getting rid of the Long Gun Registry, which they and us know, makes criminals out of average, law abiding Canadians (almost all gun crimes involve illegal firearms) and is a huge waste of money. But replacing it with this is FAR worse....
    Sounds like the ramblings of a guilty person there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather View Post
    I'm having a really hard time defending the Conservatives on this one... this is some really twisted shit. "You're with us, or you're with the child pornographers" we're basically being told

    Once again, a new bill that makes average citizens into criminals. The Tories are just now getting rid of the Long Gun Registry, which they and us know, makes criminals out of average, law abiding Canadians (almost all gun crimes involve illegal firearms) and is a huge waste of money. But replacing it with this is FAR worse....
    Both parties play to the heart strings. In politics it is always black and white when in the real world there are shades of grey everywhere.

    In the US if you disagree with the president you're a racist. If you show up to town halls to complain about the health care bill you're a Nazi. If you are against extending unemployment benefits you hate the poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acid Trip View Post
    Both parties play to the heart strings. In politics it is always black and white when in the real world there are shades of grey everywhere.

    In the US if you disagree with the president you're a racist. If you show up to town halls to complain about the health care bill you're a Nazi. If you are against extending unemployment benefits you hate the poor.
    I'm worried that Canada will become more and more divided. One thing that always surprises me is just how much Politics is talked in the US. I turn on the TV in a hotel room and it's always there. Seems like the country is divided on every single major issue if I can critique honestly.

    That is creeping up here too. My parents and theirs vote for the party at the time that sounds best, or with the candidate they like most, or against the party that has made mistakes. But I see my generation becoming more polarized. Although we did just have a sweeping majority election so that's not universal either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather View Post
    I'm worried that Canada will become more and more divided. One thing that always surprises me is just how much Politics is talked in the US. I turn on the TV in a hotel room and it's always there. Seems like the country is divided on every single major issue if I can critique honestly.

    That is creeping up here too. My parents and theirs vote for the party at the time that sounds best, or with the candidate they like most, or against the party that has made mistakes. But I see my generation becoming more polarized. Although we did just have a sweeping majority election so that's not universal either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather View Post
    I'm worried that Canada will become more and more divided. One thing that always surprises me is just how much Politics is talked in the US. I turn on the TV in a hotel room and it's always there. Seems like the country is divided on every single major issue if I can critique honestly.

    That is creeping up here too. My parents and theirs vote for the party at the time that sounds best, or with the candidate they like most, or against the party that has made mistakes. But I see my generation becoming more polarized. Although we did just have a sweeping majority election so that's not universal either.
    Divide and conquer, one of the oldest principles in warfare. This is a war of ideals as opposed to armies.

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    I think all 25+ MP's from Alberta were Conservatives But it's a money-making Province and if you want business to thrive you don't vote Liberal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Acid Trip View Post
    Divide and conquer, one of the oldest principles in warfare. This is a war of ideals as opposed to armies.
    That's a really interesting take on it

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