Ever since it's been legalized, violent crime and the homeless population has increased exponentially.Originally Posted by Hal-9000
Pot smokers cause crime and violence?
Usually it's the boozers and tweakers that do that here. And the people that don't smoke pot
And, there have been two HUGE drug raids by the feds in my neighborhood for illegal grows for black marketing.
Huh thats not what we hear out here.
You hear what the state of Colorado and pro-pot people want you to hear.Huh thats not what we hear out here.
And hey, don't get me wrong, when the referendum came up, I voted FOR legalization. The state painted the rosy picture of how wonderful it will all be and when it comes to things like this, I prefer to take a more libertarian stance and let people do what they want so long as it doesn't affect anyone else. But everything the state said was a lie, even though they are taking in BILLIONS on marijuana tax since legalization. Illegal grows have gone up, not down (when you see that the DEA and the SWAT team were on not their first but second drug raid 2 miles from your house in less than 6 months, it kinda makes you worried). Violent crime is up. Homeless population is WAY up, there's beggars and panhandlers on every street corned and there never used to be any in the suburbs. Now you can't even go to the grocery store without them coming up to you in the parking lot. And of course like I said earlier, NONE of the money has been spent where the state said it was going.Pot smokers cause crime and violence?
Usually it's the boozers and tweakers that do that here. And the people that don't smoke pot
Sounds like the Texas lottery. Most of that money is supposed to end up in schools but it never does.
Stats don't lie, and on the other hand violent crime and homelessness can be affected by a lot of different incidents.
You know my personal stance. Weed makes people the opposite of violent and the daily users are not usually inclined towards crime.
Homeless people are usually results of the economy and job market, rather than any one thing like legal booze and pot sales.
I think we legalized it the wrong way up here. I support the action because of the job growth and God knows we need it in our province. Within four months our province did millions in sales.
When I say they legalized the wrong way, I mean they just opened the candy store to the kids and said - Have at it. Up to 30 grams and buy what you like. It's like opening a large water hose because we're just not used to existing with pot in our world. Where can you smoke it? What about driving on it? Can I get high at work?
I've always said you smoke or drink something to make you feel different or fuck you up. You don't do it to feel the same. So we just allowed a bunch of young people without experience to start using it and then driving, when we don't even have a decent roadside test to determine if a driver is too baked to handle a vehicle.
They should of (up here anyways) made it a more gradual process.
Teh One Who Knocks (03-12-2019)
That's the same way they did it here. They scrambled to get some kinds of regulatory laws in place and then they just opened up the pot shops. There were not a ton of them at first because the licensing process was new, but they are literally everywhere now in the metro area. Off the top of my head, I can think of 7 of them within 5 miles of my home, and there may actually be more than that. But it was the same way down here, they just let the stores all open up and there were lines out the doors. And the same issue when it comes to impaired driving exists here, there's no easy and reliable test to give someone like you would a breathalyzer for a drunk to see if they are over the limit.
While the whole time the state takes in the tax money pretending everything is okay. Total marijuana sales in the state are more than $6 billion since it was legalized in 2014. More than $3 billion of that coming in the last 2 years. Sales keep climbing every single year. And there's already been one pot franchise that was busted and shut down because they were circumventing the daily limit allowed to be purchased. It was opening Pandora's Box without being prepared on so many fronts.
Hal-9000 (03-12-2019)
Good to know, there is a LOT of talk legalizing it here in Texas. Might look at little closer to the regulations before casting my vote.
There's no foolproof way to be prepared for every situation, but like here in Colorado and in Canada like Hal describes, there were lots of failures at different levels. All the government will want you to focus on is all the revenue coming into the state and how it will help so many things. But as I said, none of that has happened here. What this state does with all the tax money is beyond me, but it's certainly not going towards what they said it was going to be used for. Plus, they didn't have enough or correct regulations or enforcement procedures in place when sales started.
And I tell you what, the first person that can invent a breathalyzer that can be used for pot impairment will be an instant billionaire.
billionaire you say...
Easily.billionaire you say...
hal's roadside weed test.
Police hold bag of Doritos in one hand, bag of chocolate chip cookies in the other hand. Choices offered are:
Chips, cookies or on your way? If they say anything other than on your way they been smokin the devil's cabbage
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