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Thread: Pundits Agree: Romney Wins Round One—and It Wasn't Even Close

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    Gov. Mitt Romney defeated President Barack Obama soundly in the first presidential debate in Denver, and even Obama’s supporters knew it. The media quickly went to work spinning excuses for their candidate, claiming that "the deck was stacked against Obama" from the start, and that Romney had not fought a fair fight.

    Here are the five biggest--and worst--excuses for Obama's defeat:

    5. We won’t know for 2-3 days whether Mitt Romney actually won. The idea here seems to be that the polls will tell us who won, although even CNN’s instant polling of those who had watched the debate had it at 67%-25% in Romney’s favor. This excuse has a purpose: to buy time for so-called “fact-checkers” to attack Romney’s arguments and change the narrative from “Romney won” to “Romney lied.” Speaking of which...

    4. Romney lied with a straight face for ninety minutes. This excuse betrays the fact that so many on the left never leave their own media bubble. They believe what they tell each other about Romney and his policies, rather than listening or learning the truth. A good example was Rachel Maddow’s battle with Rudy Giuliani afterwards, in which she insisted Romney lied about a $5 trillion tax cut that he has never, in fact, proposed. Sad.

    3. The free-flowing format was bad and let Romney dominate. On the contrary, the format allowed Obama to deploy his favorite defense, the filibuster. It just so happened that Romney didn’t let him get away with it, insisting on the right to reply to repeated distortions of his position. It is Obama’s fault, not the format’s, that he didn’t know when to stop talking, letting himself lose focus while the words kept coming out.

    2. The moderator, Jim Lehrer, let Romney win. This is the Obama campaign’s official excuse, judging by the post-debate comments of Stephanie “Felon” Cutter, who argued that Lehrer allowed Romney to dominate. Actually, Lehrer was his usual liberal self, and was tougher on Romney than on Obama, interjecting more often with follow-up questions and letting the president use a full four minutes more than his challenger.

    1. Obama didn’t show up tonight. This was the lament of Chris Matthews, who suggested--colorfully--that Obama had not tried hard enough to win the debate. The idea, once again--it is always the same when Obama suffers a setback--is that the president needs to fight harder, to be more aggressive. In fact, Obama was often too hostile. What needs to change are the ideas, not the tactics. And it’s too late for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehlancinator View Post
    Eva Longoria: "I'm in New Zealand watching the presidential debate! Obama is killing it on health care! #Obama2012."


    What the fuck was she watching?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Cranium View Post
    Gov. Mitt Romney defeated President Barack Obama soundly in the first presidential debate in Denver, and even Obama’s supporters knew it. The media quickly went to work spinning excuses for their candidate, claiming that "the deck was stacked against Obama" from the start, and that Romney had not fought a fair fight.

    Here are the five biggest--and worst--excuses for Obama's defeat:

    5. We won’t know for 2-3 days whether Mitt Romney actually won. The idea here seems to be that the polls will tell us who won, although even CNN’s instant polling of those who had watched the debate had it at 67%-25% in Romney’s favor. This excuse has a purpose: to buy time for so-called “fact-checkers” to attack Romney’s arguments and change the narrative from “Romney won” to “Romney lied.” Speaking of which...

    4. Romney lied with a straight face for ninety minutes. This excuse betrays the fact that so many on the left never leave their own media bubble. They believe what they tell each other about Romney and his policies, rather than listening or learning the truth. A good example was Rachel Maddow’s battle with Rudy Giuliani afterwards, in which she insisted Romney lied about a $5 trillion tax cut that he has never, in fact, proposed. Sad.

    3. The free-flowing format was bad and let Romney dominate. On the contrary, the format allowed Obama to deploy his favorite defense, the filibuster. It just so happened that Romney didn’t let him get away with it, insisting on the right to reply to repeated distortions of his position. It is Obama’s fault, not the format’s, that he didn’t know when to stop talking, letting himself lose focus while the words kept coming out.

    2. The moderator, Jim Lehrer, let Romney win. This is the Obama campaign’s official excuse, judging by the post-debate comments of Stephanie “Felon” Cutter, who argued that Lehrer allowed Romney to dominate. Actually, Lehrer was his usual liberal self, and was tougher on Romney than on Obama, interjecting more often with follow-up questions and letting the president use a full four minutes more than his challenger.

    1. Obama didn’t show up tonight. This was the lament of Chris Matthews, who suggested--colorfully--that Obama had not tried hard enough to win the debate. The idea, once again--it is always the same when Obama suffers a setback--is that the president needs to fight harder, to be more aggressive. In fact, Obama was often too hostile. What needs to change are the ideas, not the tactics. And it’s too late for that.
    and I thought they were all just waiting for him to kick romney's ass in the debates? what a joke. like I said before, its hard to defend your record when you only won by not having a record before (and the little record you did have was ridiculously suppressed)...and now that he's got something we can put his name on? its a got dam shame what he is, what he's done, and where he'd take us next should the progressive operatives happen to steal this upcoming election for him.

    its sad the fkn echo chamber hollywood has become.

    fuck racists like chris rock, that dude is a prick. fuck everyone that stands behind obama because he's a black man - you're all friggin racists.

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    oh good lord.
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    Is Lady Gaga bullshittin' or did Romney really use schemes to pay less tax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambchop View Post
    Is Lady Gaga bullshittin' or did Romney really use schemes to pay less tax?
    Yeah, the bastard gave money to charity to reduce his tax $$$.

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    The whole tax rate argument is ridiculous. He is essentially paying taxes twice on money he earned. I don't get what is so hard to understand about the tax rates being different for income and investments. Let's just tax the shit out of capital gains so those with money will just hold onto it instead of reinvesting it into the economic foundation that supports this country.

    Disappointed in Olivia Wilde. I thought she had the brains to go with the looks I'm sure she has all sorts of caring and respect for those 47%

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    Lets dump all taxes except for an inflated sales tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iffy View Post
    Disappointed in Olivia Wilde. I thought she had the brains to go with the looks I'm sure she has all sorts of caring and respect for those 47%
    Seriously?

    You didn't know she was a hardcore lefty? Man, she's been promoting socialism for as long as she's been in the spotlight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perrhaps View Post
    Yeah, the bastard gave money to charity to reduce his tax $$$.
    Ah, that old trick.

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    What ol trick? Looking at how much you made, seeing how it fits into the tax bracket, and giving away enough to bump you into a one-lower bracket? If you are beyond the standard deduction, you're crazy if you dont at least look and see, sometimes you can give a relatively paltry sum away and have it bump you down. I do that shit. that's what's called "playing by the rules." Its not trickery. If congress changes the rules about it, fine, but until they do - it is playing by the rules. Lady fkface is simply a dishonest ideologue and is willing to misrepresent something to get a situation to go the way she wants it to.

    That is called "that ol trick."

    Trust, Lady Giggnutz does the same thing, or at least her accountant does, with her money. If she doesnt, well, there's her "extra free gift of money to the feds."

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