Game of Thrones [SPOILERS POSSIBLE]

[Teh One Who Knocks]

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a billion pieces

[lost in melb.]

[lost in melb.]

#DemThrones #GameofThrones

‘So Arya is going to kill Cersei?’
GOT writers : Nope
‘Jaime, definitely Jaime.’
Writers : nah, but it’s gonna be glorious.
‘Dany and Drogon??’
Writer : not actually!
‘Then who?’
Writer : pic.twitter.com/egzd8Vf8Q4

— reynold yumnam (@reynoldjag) May 13, 2019

[Teh One Who Knocks]

By James Barrett - The Daily Wire




It's safe to say that the final season of the most costly television series ever has not gone the way many fans hoped — particularly fans on the left, who have expressed a combination of despair and outrage over the collapse of the climate change theme and the direction of several of the female characters' storylines, particularly Daenerys' descent into a murderous, city-burning tyrant. But it's not only left-leaning audience members who feel the producers have fumbled the final chapter, with many viewers taking issue with story and production decisions, including a notoriously dark final battle with the White Walkers and unsatisfying endings for some key characters.

So it's not surprising that a fan-created petition for a redo of the final season — "with competent writers" — has rapidly racked up hundreds of thousands of signatures (h/t John Sexton).

A Change.org petition titled simply "Remake Game of Thrones Season 8 with competent writers" has now amassed 350,000 signatures (200,000 of those in less than 24 hours), and it shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon.

"David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have proven themselves to be woefully incompetent writers when they have no source material (i.e. the books) to fall back on. This series deserves a final season that makes sense. Subvert my expectations and make it happen, HBO!" the succinct petition reads.

As The Daily Wire has noted, some of the strongest criticism of the final season has been ideologically driven. Among the complaints is that HBO "literally shattered" the show's global warming theme, which book series' author George R.R. Martin famously helped promote in an October 2018 interview with The New York Times, in which he touted the "great parallel" between the series' "winter is coming" theme and climate change. "[T]he people in Westeros are fighting their individual battles over power and status and wealth," said Martin. "And those are so distracting them that they’re ignoring the threat of 'winter is coming,' which has the potential to destroy all of them and to destroy their world. And there is a great parallel there to, I think, what I see this planet doing here, where we’re fighting our own battles."

But the rather easy destruction of the Night King by a single character "shattered" that theme for ThinkProgress's Joe Romm. "One of the show’s heroes single-handedly ended the existential climate threat with a clever knife trick — abruptly returning the storyline to a conventional tale of humans fighting among themselves for political power," Romm wrote in a piece for the left-wing site. "In the real world, climate change is far too challenging a threat to be ended by one person — or even one battle that doesn’t include all of the major powers."

The most impassioned criticisms, however, have revolved around some of the show's key female characters. "Until recently, you could make the argument that Game of Thrones was a stealthily feminist show," The Guardian's Abigail Chandler wrote. "In its early years it might have lured in the typical male fantasy crowd with sex, violence and alpha-male characters like Ned and Robb Stark, Robert Baratheon and Jaime Lannister, but before you knew it a woman was on the Iron Throne, her main challenger was also a woman, and Westeros was stuffed full of female assassins, knights, wily politicos and Dame Diana Rigg. ... Which is why it’s so frustrating to see the show slip back into its old ways in this final season. Coming off the back of The Long Night’s excellent twist ending – where Arya, rather than the expected hero Jon Snow, killed the Night King – the latest episode is especially disappointing. So many of the show’s strongest female characters were undermined by showrunners David Benioff and DB Weiss, who also wrote this episode."

Along with Daenerys' spiral into paranoia, bitterness, and bloodlust, a scene with Sansa Stark suggesting being raped helped empower her has disturbed many fans, including actress Jessica Chastain. "Rape is not a tool to make a character stronger," Chastain tweeted. "A woman doesn’t need to be victimized in order to become a butterfly. The #littlebird was always a Phoenix. Her prevailing strength is solely because of her. And her alone."

Slate's Inkoo Kang also notes that feminist fans' are in an "uproar" over "Brienne’s pleading with Jaime to stay by her side after their relationship turned briefly sexual" and "the 'fridging' of Missandei, whose death was particularly disappointing to viewers who’d grown attached to the show’s sole prominent woman of color."

"Game of Thrones" is the most costly television series in history, with most episodes costing over $10 million, and around $15 million for the final few seasons.

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[DemonGeminiX]

I bet George RR Martin is laughing his ass off, saying, "If they think this is bad, wait until they read what I've got in store for them in the last two books!"

Seriously, have people missed the first 5 books and past 7 seasons?

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I bet George RR Martin is laughing his ass off, saying, "If they think this is bad, wait until they read what I've got in store for them in the last two books!"

Seriously, have people missed the first 5 books and past 7 seasons?

It's all the feminists and SJW's that wanted Dany to be the perfect hero and save everyone and rule the 7 Kingdoms happily ever after. They completely ignored everything prior to this season that showed Dany had the capability of being cruel and evil, not to mention the fact that Teh Crazy runs through her blood because of the inbreeding in her family.

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Oh good so now we get Ru-Paul playing Sansa.

Speaking of Sansa what do these women expect? Her marrying Joffey and Ramsey then getting abused is a large part of her story.

The only alternative for a reaction is that she's scarred for life, needs counseling and is not able to be in a room with a man. Fuck that.

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It's all the feminists and SJW's that wanted Dany to be the perfect hero and save everyone and rule the 7 Kingdoms happily ever after. They completely ignored everything prior to this season that showed Dany had the capability of being cruel and evil, not to mention the fact that Teh Crazy runs through her blood because of the inbreeding in her family.

Even if it's not the crazy blood in Dany and she just made a military decision, that would be even more supportive of feminism. Dany was totally empowered in that moment, fuck everyone else and their advice.

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I like how they briefly touch upon characters like Lady Olenna and Arya and then move on to another subject.

If you look at Game of Thrones across the board there have been just as many female characters with total agency in the show.

Hell, Cersei and Dany are two of the most powerful characters throughout the series.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

You will never ever please the feminist/SJW crowd. Dany being a woman going crazy and looking crazed while doing (whether she snapped or whether it was a genocidal military choice) it fits into the 'bitches be crazy' story pushed by the patriarchy.

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You know what's really getting to them?

The two mentions of men running things within the story. They said something blatant that way last episode too. Super quick comments.

Like DGX mentions, hello it's Game of Thrones! This is how the source material and by extension the show looks at men and women during medieval times. Even if it's not one to one medieval history with our real history, it's the way Martin created the world.

Good golly it could be a lot worse considering...

[Teh One Who Knocks]

You know what's really getting to them?

The two mentions of men running things within the story. They said something blatant that way last episode too. Super quick comments.

Like DGX mentions, hello it's Game of Thrones! This is how the source material and by extension the show looks at men and women during medieval times. Even if it's not one to one medieval history with our real history, it's the way Martin created the world.

Good golly it could be a lot worse considering...

They bitch about Sansa being raped and her saying that it helped make her who she now is. She didn't even get the worst of the things in the series. What about poor Theon at the hands of Ramsey Bolton? Theon by far and away got the worst treatment and torture of any character, and it was very prolonged. But he's just a guy, so that doesn't count.

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They bitch about Sansa being raped and her saying that it helped make her who she now is. She didn't even get the worst of the things in the series. What about poor Theon at the hands of Ramsey Bolton? Theon by far and away got the worst treatment and torture of any character, and it was very prolonged. But he's just a guy, so that doesn't count.

For sure, tortured for weeks and genitally mutilated.

But since the Greyjoys were republicans he deserved it



sorry, you're not having the best of days. I shouldn't do that

[Teh One Who Knocks]

For sure, tortured for weeks and genitally mutilated.

But since the Greyjoys were republicans he deserved it



sorry, you're not having the best of days. I shouldn't do that

My day is okay, just frustrating, I need the laughs