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    Quote Originally Posted by Pony View Post
    Faster? No, rate of fire is identical. More powerful? Depends. Any rifle is typically more "powerful" because the speed of the bullet is increased. But if you compare a large caliber handgun to a small caliber rifle? I dunno. What would do more damage? A small bullet traveling slower or a smaller one traveling fast?

    Typically I would agree a civilian shouldn't run into a school to "hunt" a shooter. A trained, possible police resource officer is a different story, depending on all circumstances I think he should go in. An armed citizen, say a teacher also shouldn't go hunting through the school looking for a shooter but if the shooter enters the area (classroom,etc) and the teacher has the opportunity to safely take out the shooter they should absolutely do so.
    Speed, size of round...yeah I did some reading. There are differences between handguns and AR-15's, but there's no debate here.

    It would be a tough call for me personally being the resource officer because of two factors. If I felt I was outgunned and my need to help people. Not sure if the fear> living the idea children were getting shot. Just talking about it now, I know my internal voice would say - Go in, those kids don't have a chance. And I hate bullies with guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal-9000 View Post
    Speed, size of round...yeah I did some reading. There are differences between handguns and AR-15's, but there's no debate here.

    It would be a tough call for me personally being the resource officer because of two factors. If I felt I was outgunned and my need to help people. Not sure if the fear> living the idea children were getting shot. Just talking about it now, I know my internal voice would say - Go in, those kids don't have a chance. And I hate bullies with guns.
    The thing is, the resource officer assigned to each school is a cop. That's their job, to protect. It's no different than if the SWAT team showed up and all those guys said, I ain't going in there, he/they could be waiting for us and pick us off, it could be a trap.

    Every cop knows there's the chance that someday they may be asked to put their life on the line for someone else, and nearly all of them do, with no questions and no thought to their own personal safety. Cops are supposed to be trained for all kinds of scenarios, and going into a building with an active shooter is no different. If fact, if you ask me, it's WORSE that this was a school and he refused to go in and actually was seen taking cover outside the building. These kids in the school were counting on him as their first line of defense against anything, not just a shooter. And he blatantly refused to do his job. If he didn't want to be a cop any longer, then he should have retired. IMHO he deserved all the criticism and heat he got.

    Could I do that job? Hell no, most cops are better people than I am because doing that on a daily basis is just beyond what I could see myself ever doing. Especially with the disdain thrown at cops nowadays. But this was his job, he took it voluntarily and he let a lot of people down that day. Maybe he wouldn't have changed the outcome one bit, but because he didn't even try, we'll never know if he could have saved even one person from being shot and/or killed. Hell, there was a kid in there that made himself a human shield to protect some people and he was shot several times (and lived). And yet this trained police officer refused to go and do his job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh One Who Knocks View Post
    The thing is, the resource officer assigned to each school is a cop. That's their job, to protect. It's no different than if the SWAT team showed up and all those guys said, I ain't going in there, he/they could be waiting for us and pick us off, it could be a trap.

    Every cop knows there's the chance that someday they may be asked to put their life on the line for someone else, and nearly all of them do, with no questions and no thought to their own personal safety. Cops are supposed to be trained for all kinds of scenarios, and going into a building with an active shooter is no different. If fact, if you ask me, it's WORSE that this was a school and he refused to go in and actually was seen taking cover outside the building. These kids in the school were counting on him as their first line of defense against anything, not just a shooter. And he blatantly refused to do his job. If he didn't want to be a cop any longer, then he should have retired. IMHO he deserved all the criticism and heat he got.

    Could I do that job? Hell no, most cops are better people than I am because doing that on a daily basis is just beyond what I could see myself ever doing. Especially with the disdain thrown at cops nowadays. But this was his job, he took it voluntarily and he let a lot of people down that day. Maybe he wouldn't have changed the outcome one bit, but because he didn't even try, we'll never know if he could have saved even one person from being shot and/or killed. Hell, there was a kid in there that made himself a human shield to protect some people and he was shot several times (and lived). And yet this trained police officer refused to go and do his job.
    Good points Lance and I forget our school resource officers are different up here. Far less training and weaponry.

    Parkland affected me deeply for some reason. Things like the kid having 10 weapons, his age, what the resource officer did and didn't do. I'm fairly empathetic and try to put myself in those situations thinking about what I'd do.

    Same military person said typically civilians don't realize a shooting is in progress as most think it's a gag or being faked, even when faced with seeing people getting shot nearby. He said only police and military are trained to analyze the situation (correctly) quickly and then take the appropriate action. Some people do have that built-in ability to act correctly and help others, but most have troubles assessing events because of shock and bewilderment.

    I'd like to think I wouldn't freeze up and take cover...hoping I don't get tested anytime soon.

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    If you have a Spotify Premium account, it now includes Hulu (ad supported) for free. Just activate it in the services section of your account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
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    You get free Hulu now!
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    Hahahahaha *deep breath* Hahahahahahahaha...


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    Why is fall in the southern hemisphere only 1 month long?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
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    Why is fall in the southern hemisphere only 1 month long?
    What make you say that?

    p.s. it's called autumn

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost in melb. View Post
    What make you say that?

    p.s. it's called autumn
    It's informally known as fall in the US.

    Looks like somebody fucked up where ever I read it at. They had it beginning on March 1st and ending on March 31st. Should be May 31st. Somebody should probably tell the site's web page people to fix that.
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    This is maddening. Windows is downloading updates and my connection has slowed to a freakin' crawl. So much for it not interfering with anything. Micro$hit strikes again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    This is maddening. Windows is downloading updates and my connection has slowed to a freakin' crawl. So much for it not interfering with anything. Micro$hit strikes again.
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    Now it's installing at a snail's pace. Maybe I should come back later.


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