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    News Pakistan lawmakers slam US after session with army

    By MUNIR AHMED, Associated Press


    ISLAMABAD – Members of Pakistan's Parliament slammed the United States on Saturday for the raid that killed al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden on their soil, but also demanded that an independent commission probe the debacle instead of one led by the country's powerful armed forces.

    The parliamentary resolution followed a rare, private session with top military officials that began Friday and ran past midnight. During the session, Pakistani intelligence chief Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha indicated he'd be willing to resign if lawmakers demanded it, but no one did.

    In fact, it appeared lawmakers from the weak civilian government and the opposition essentially closed ranks behind a military establishment humiliated by the May 2 U.S. Navy SEALs attack on bin Laden's compound in the northwest garrison city of Abbottabad. Pakistani leaders have insisted they had no idea bin Laden was staying in the city.

    Few lawmakers were willing to discuss details of the confidential session, but the hours it covered suggested that the generals were questioned extensively — a rarity in a country where the military operates largely beyond civilian control and has staged multiple coups.

    Intelligence chief Pasha spoke at length, and defended the military's record in fighting Islamist extremist movements, some of which have staged numerous deadly attacks on Pakistani soil.

    Pasha admitted negligence in tracing bin Laden, but also noted that Pakistan had cooperated with the U.S. in helping kill or capture numerous bin Laden allies, severely diminishing al-Qaida's terrorist infrastructure.

    Bin Laden was like a "dead person despite being alive," federal Information Minister Firdous Ashiq Awan quoted the intelligence chief as saying.

    When asked why the CIA was able to track bin Laden, the spy chief said the U.S. agency had managed to acquire more human sources in Pakistan than the Pakistani agencies because it paid informants far better, according to a lawmaker who attended the session.

    "Where we pay 10,000 rupees ($118), they pay $10,000," the lawmaker described Pasha as saying. The lawmaker spoke on condition of anonymity because the session was supposed to be confidential.

    Pasha rarely talks to media on the record. The army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, was present, but there were no accounts of him speaking.

    Air Force Marshall Rao Qamar Suleman revealed that U.S. drones used the Shamsi air base in southwest Baluchistan province, but said those aircraft were used for surveillance only. The air base has long been rumored to be home to drones used in missile strikes on Pakistan's tribal areas.

    The air chief also said the air base was under the control of the United Arab Emirates, after being given to that Gulf nation in the 1990s, the lawmaker told The Associated Press. There was no immediate explanation as to why the UAE would run the base, but wealthy Arabs have many land investments in Pakistan, and often travel to the country in their own planes for purposes such as hunting expeditions.

    According to Awan, the military officials said they learned "American planes were loaded with bombs" and in the air in Afghanistan, ready to retaliate if Pakistani planes went after the U.S. helicopters sent after bin Laden.

    The U.S. has said it sent extra helicopters into Pakistani airspace to provide backup for the Navy SEALs.

    The military leaders assured lawmakers that Pakistan's nuclear arsenals are safe and promised to improve the country's air defenses, Awan said.

    The parliamentary resolution that emerged from the gathering termed the U.S. raid as an attack on Pakistan's sovereignty.

    It also criticized the American missile strikes in Pakistan's militant-riddled tribal areas, and said the government should consider preventing U.S. and NATO supply trucks from using land routes in Pakistan if the strikes continue. Many analysts have long suspected that Pakistan secretly allows the drone attacks while publicly denouncing them.

    The resolution also called for an independent body to look into the bin Laden raid. Earlier in the week, Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said the military would lead the probe, but that upset opposition leaders.

    Awan told state-run Pakistan TV that lawmakers had expressed full confidence in the country's security forces.

    Pakistan became an ally of the U.S. in the fight against Islamist militants after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, but the relationship has long been an uneasy one, with mutual distrust that has only deepened since the bin Laden killing.

    Although American officials have said so far they have seen no evidence the top Pakistani military officials knew of bin Laden's whereabouts, the U.S. has long harbored suspicions that elements of Pakistan's armed and intelligence services provide assistance to some militant groups battling Western troops in Afghanistan.

    Pakistani officials deny any links to such groups, including the feared Haqqani network in eastern Afghanistan.

    But analysts say Pakistan may be maintaining ties to some insurgents, including the Haqqanis and Afghan Taliban leaders, because it wants leverage in Afghanistan — and a wedge against archrival India — once the U.S. pulls out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelancinator View Post
    By MUNIR AHMED, Associated Press

    When asked why the CIA was able to track bin Laden, the spy chief said the U.S. agency had managed to acquire more human sources in Pakistan than the Pakistani agencies because it paid informants far better, according to a lawmaker who attended the session.

    "Where we pay 10,000 rupees ($118), they pay $10,000," the lawmaker described Pasha as saying. The lawmaker spoke on condition of anonymity because the session was supposed to be confidential.
    So it is the position of Pakistani intelligence that the United States has better information about Pakistan than they do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepsepia View Post
    So it is the position of Pakistani intelligence that the United States has better information about Pakistan than they do?
    No kidding...don't they realize that they are basically saying their intelligence agency is inept?

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