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[Teh One Who Knocks]

[Muddy]

[Godfather]

Wow. Heart was 100% in the right place but this vigilantism is going to cost Santa. Hope the courts let him off easy. I can imagine he just saw red ('scuse the pun) hearing something that heartbreaking from a little kid

[RBP]

I'm thanking to mock you all for believing that's true. C'mon, man!

[RBP]

Wow. Heart was 100% in the right place but this vigilantism is going to cost Santa. Hope the courts let him off easy. I can imagine he just saw red ('scuse the pun) hearing something that heartbreaking from a little kid

Then Kringle got on top of him and just started pummeling him. He was laughing and screaming 'Ho! Ho! Ho! Motherfucker!'

really? that seems plausible to you. okay.

[Godfather]

I just read the headline, but it's good satire now that I read the text.

[teabelly]

[Teh One Who Knocks]

[RBP]

Yeah, I have softened on this. To many hard working people forced to make bad decisions by predatory lenders simply because they can't live of what predatory corporations are forced to pay. The argument for unions has become more justified, and that's not a good thing. Working class wages have not moved with economic growth. Why is that? Corporations have moved to outsourcing to minimize "employees" and allow them to skirt employment taxes, benefit costs, and labor laws. People are disposable commodities again, which is one of the reason for the rise of the labor movement in the first place.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Yeah, I have softened on this. To many hard working people forced to make bad decisions by predatory lenders simply because they can't live of what predatory corporations are forced to pay. The argument for unions has become more justified, and that's not a good thing. Working class wages have not moved with economic growth. Why is that? Corporations have moved to outsourcing to minimize "employees" and allow them to skirt employment taxes, benefit costs, and labor laws. People are disposable commodities again, which is one of the reason for the rise of the labor movement in the first place.

Here's the problem with that. Say they make the minimum wage $15/hour. Does that mean that everyone already making more money will get a proportional wage increase? Of course not. So now all these people that have (in many cases) zero skills, are now going to be paid more while people with actual skills, whether from going to college or on the job training or whatever, now have their value lessened by the new minimum wage. Not to mention that nobody is going to go to McDonalds and buy a $12 Big Mac.

[RBP]

Here's the problem with that. Say they make the minimum wage $15/hour. Does that mean that everyone already making more money will get a proportional wage increase? Of course not. So now all these people that have (in many cases) zero skills, are now going to be paid more while people with actual skills, whether from going to college or on the job training or whatever, now have their value lessened by the new minimum wage. Not to mention that nobody is going to go to McDonalds and buy a $12 Big Mac.

You know I won't argue that. Corporations used to shift the entire salary structure up annually to reflect COL and the competitive environment. I honestly haven't researched the reasons, but I have to assume that stopped. My first job out of college in 1989 paid $25,000. That's $53,400 today. What happened?

[Teh One Who Knocks]

You know I won't argue that. Corporations used to shift the entire salary structure up annually to reflect COL and the competitive environment. I honestly haven't researched the reasons, but I have to assume that stopped. My first job out of college in 1989 paid $25,000. That's $53,400 today. What happened?

I think the last time I got an actual COL raise (and not just a merit based raise) was back in the early to mid 90's. I don't know of many places that do that any more, if any at all. My wife works for the county government and I don't think she even gets COL raises there.

[RBP]

I think the last time I got an actual COL raise (and not just a merit based raise) was back in the early to mid 90's. I don't know of many places that do that any more, if any at all. My wife works for the county government and I don't think she even gets COL raises there.

Right, so if employers have failed in their responsibility, over time, that's exploitive and predatory. Who intervenes? Those of us who believe the market takes care of itself have unfortunately been proven wrong.

Don't get me started on retirement.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Right, so if employers have failed in their responsibility, over time, that's exploitive and predatory. Who intervenes? Those of us who believe the market takes care of itself have unfortunately been proven wrong.

Don't get me started on retirement.

Careful, you're starting to let your inner Ocasio-Cortez show


EDIT: Socialism I mean, not stupid posting

[RBP]

Careful, you're starting to let your inner Ocasio-Cortez show

EDIT: Socialism I mean, not stupid posting

I believe in free markets with guard rails. Corporate greed run amock is disastrous. We have OSHA, ERISA, and Labor Laws, for a reason. Now we can argue to what extent they should wield power, but it's hard to argue for no guard rails.