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[Teh One Who Knocks]

[Teh One Who Knocks]

[RBP]

I hear this all the time at work. The logic of eventuality. The perp isn't responsible because they are naturally reacting to conditions. Complete bullshit that ignores individual choice and determination.

"You caused this" "you created this"

[lost in melb.]

I hear this all the time at work. The logic of eventuality. The perp isn't responsible because they are naturally reacting to conditions. Complete bullshit that ignores individual choice and determination.

"You caused this" "you created this"

Are you saying complete b******* in that that account completely dismisses individual choice? Where do you lie on the spectrum of individual responsibility and societal pressure?

[Muddy]

Whats the punch line?

[RBP]

Are you saying complete b******* in that that account completely dismisses individual choice? Where do you lie on the spectrum of individual responsibility and societal pressure?

I am indeed calling bullshit. The response is a choice. That explanation doesn't talk to societal pressure or mob mentalities, which are powerful influences. In the end, it's still a behavioral choice and I completely dismiss the idea that we create predictable eventualities in personal behavior. You're about to throw trauma stress and breaking points at me. Looting and burning a store is not the same as striking back at an abuser. It's more akin to being a petulant child.

[RBP]

Whats the punch line?

I don't think there is one. Just an example (of millions ignored) of positive fatherhood.

[deebakes]

Whats the punch line?

i just thought it was a nice story bro

[lost in melb.]

I am indeed calling bullshit. The response is a choice. That explanation doesn't talk to societal pressure or mob mentalities, which are powerful influences. In the end, it's still a behavioral choice and I completely dismiss the idea that we create predictable eventualities in personal behavior. You're about to throw trauma stress and breaking points at me. Looting and burning a store is not the same as striking back at an abuser. It's more akin to being a petulant child.

Take away Trump, and we will probably agree on a lot

The only thing I have to add is the looters appear to have no-one to remind them of that individual responsibility. Then the mob rules and feeds itself.

[Pony]

Take away Trump, and we will probably agree on a lot

The only thing I have to add is the looters appear to have no-one to remind them of that individual responsibility. Then the mob rules and feeds itself.

My question: So are they looting and burning totally out of rage over the death of a black guy? Or are they just using that as an excuse to loot, burn and riot because they know there won't be personal consequences?

[Pony]

And don't get me started on individual responsibility. It seems everything these days is "we" and "us" and "our". Gender, political party, race, weather or not you like coleslaw.... It's all become group think.

[lost in melb.]

My question: So are they looting and burning totally out of rage over the death of a black guy? Or are they just using that as an excuse to loot, burn and riot because they know there won't be personal consequences?

The latter (but that's only part of the reason)

[lost in melb.]

In fairness there are probably a lot more racist run ins with the police. These are just the ones that were filmed. So some of them might have had similar treatment first hand

[RBP]

In fairness there are probably a lot more racist run ins with the police. These are just the ones that were filmed. So some of them might have had similar treatment first hand

The research is clear. Black men are more likely to be killed by an officer of color than a white officer.

[lost in melb.]

The research is clear. Black men are more likely to be killed by an officer of color than a white officer.

We need to get that on a placard and out to those rioters, quickly!