Originally Posted by
FBD
As to jews having a homeland, well, ok, everyone needs one. That's what the whole 1967 borders thing was about. Palestinians have all but given up on getting those pre 1967 borders back. But the settlements...those, from what I can tell, are a different story, with Israel basically going in, occupying the land, then selling it to their citizens very cheap. So after that early-mid 70s "war" it has not been Israel "establishing their nation," it has been them expanding it beyond prior agreements at the explicit expense of the weaker palestinians. Establishing controlled areas, checkpoints, who the fuck wants to sit in a sweltering car for hours just to get past a checkpoint to get to the other side of the state, etc, etc...so you can just about see the roots of the police state TPTB are trying to establish in america in the things that the Israelis do over there.