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    Thinking Stephen Hawking says afterlife is a fairy story

    By Liz Goodwin - Yahoo! News Blog




    Renowned physicist Stephen Hawking recently explained his belief that there is no God and that humans should therefore seek to live the most valuable lives they can while on Earth.

    Guardian writer Ian Sample asked Hawking if he feared death in a story published yesterday. This was his response:

    I have lived with the prospect of an early death for the last 49 years. I'm not afraid of death, but I'm in no hurry to die. I have so much I want to do first. I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.

    Hawking's 1988 book "A Brief History of Time" sold 9 million copies, and in it Hawking referenced God metaphorically as the force that could fully explain the creation of the universe.

    But in 2010, Hawking told Diane Sawyer that "science will win" in a battle with religion "because it works."

    "What could define God [is a conception of divinity] as the embodiment of the laws of nature. However, this is not what most people would think of that God," Hawking told Sawyer. "They made a human-like being with whom one can have a personal relationship. When you look at the vast size of the universe and how insignificant an accidental human life is in it, that seems most impossible."

    Hawking's latest book, "The Grand Design," challenged Isaac Newton's theory that the solar system could not have been created without God. "Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist. It is not necessary to invoke God to ... set the Universe going," he writes.

    Hawking was diagnosed with the degenerative Lou Gehrig's disease at the age of 21. He lost his power of speech and for decades has talked through an electronic speech synthesizer. The device has allowed him to continue his research and attain a top Cambridge research post, which was previously held by Newton. His most famous theory explains how black holes emit radiation, according to The Guardian.

    So if everyone is destined to power-down like computers at the end of their lives, what should humans do to lend meaning to their experience?

    "We should seek the greatest value of our action," Hawking told the paper.

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    Just stick to your physics, Stevie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuddyGut View Post
    Just stick to your physics, Stevie...
    It is physics. If heaven exists, it has to be "someplace", right?

    Once upon a time folks imagined that it was in the sky, somewhere. . .and that hell was under the Earth somewhere.

    Now we can examine the Universe in detail . . . I don't see anyone floating on clouds. And we can see into the Earth (though less well than we can see the sky, actually)-- so far, no sinners in pools of lava.

    So where is Heaven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepsepia View Post
    So where is Heaven?

    I don't have the answers (neither does Hawking), So I try not to trump others with my hypothesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuddyGut View Post
    I don't have the answers (neither does Hawking), So I try not to trump others with my hypothesis.
    Hawking actually does have an answer . . . in the operation of natural law. He looks at the Universe and sees that it "creates itself". That's a very different idea than we're used to, and a different idea than having a Creator.

    Now its always possible that he's wrong about what he's concluded, but it is true that if you see the world through his eyes, there is no Creator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuddyGut View Post
    I don't have the answers (neither does Hawking), So I try not to trump others with my hypothesis.
    isn't the whole concept of religion and heaven based on a hypothesis. I have yet to see any proof to confirm that heaven or a god for that matter exists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepsepia View Post
    Now its always possible that he's wrong about what he's concluded
    Exactly.. (I'm not particularity religious either, btw) Live and let live brother..

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    At some point you have to teach the people the reality of the situation and stop believing in fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsM View Post
    isn't the whole concept of religion and heaven based on a hypothesis. I have yet to see any proof to confirm that heaven or a god for that matter exists
    Not even a hypothesis. Religion and heaven are "supernatural" ideas, that is, the claim is that they don't obey natural laws. There are a few evangelicals who'll tell you "heaven is a real place" like Planet Earth is real, but that's not possible.

    If its something supernatural, then its like Ghosts or Leprechauns, if you believe there are ghosts .. . well that's what you believe. There is no testable "ghost hypothesis"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PorkChopSandwiches View Post
    At some point you have to teach the people the reality of the situation and stop believing in fantasy.

    What is the reality?

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    That there is no god. You can count on it.

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    All hail Porky...!

    How about ghosts, whats their deal?

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    Im no god, but I do play one on the internets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepsepia View Post
    who'll tell you "heaven is a real place" like Planet Earth is real, but that's not possible.
    That is so inaccurate it's not even remotely funny. It's entirely possible that heaven exists in a dimension we cannot see. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We know much more about our universe than we did hundreds of years ago but by no means do we know everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acid Trip View Post
    That is so inaccurate it's not even remotely funny. It's entirely possible that heaven exists in a dimension we cannot see. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
    how is it exactly that "souls" get from here to there?

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