STAR TREK DISCOVERY Discussion Thread *Beware Spoilers*

[Hal-9000]

I don't get why it's got such high ratings. Are people that afraid to dis it because they don't wanna be called sexist,homophobic, etc?

It really sounds like they keep getting stoned, writing themselves into a corner because they are so focused on being "woke". then sober up and say, meh, that's ok, it's sci-fi we can just make up anything to get out of inconsistencies.

From my small sample size, what I've seen online are definitely a younger set of fans. And let's face it...the show is flashy and sci-fi. A much needed commodity with a built-in fanbase of existing Trek fans.

The podcast place I refer to is full of two types of fans and I can pretty much nail their age within one or two posts Some older fans like us, let's say 35-60 and then the rest.

I got into a shitshow of an argument after I leveled a few critiques about a season one episode. The person started with - 'Oh so you're one of the haters because it's new and you don't understand it...'

How do you even begin to respond to something like that? Well I did and it began with - Yes I am a hater of the events I've brought up here and you don't seem to think that's allowed. Are you going to tell me what my favorite color is next? Or that my opinion is not allowed here because it differs from yours? I really lean on the ideas that it's entertainment and the internet allows us the ability to have varying opinions.

I can tell by the failures in answering my questions and their pathetic attempts at telling me what 'I should be thinking', that the person on the other side of the convo isn't over 25. And yes a large part of that demographic often falls back to the - You don't like Discovery because the main character is a strong woman! Oh boy did I ever respond to that POS and let him/her know the reasons I can hate a character without ever alluding to gender or color

[Teh One Who Knocks]

The show plays right into the SJW mentality that is pervasive among younger people too and they eat that shit up.

[Hal-9000]

The show plays right into the SJW mentality that is pervasive among younger people too and they eat that shit up.

Change is good if it improves something. But change just for the sake of changing something is not an improvement.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Change is good if it improves something. But change just for the sake of changing something is not an improvement.

Exactly. Just throwing around the word 'pansexual' and force feeding us a gay love story that basically has ZERO to do with any of the plot of the show is just pandering.

[Hal-9000]

Exactly. Just throwing around the word 'pansexual' and force feeding us a gay love story that basically has ZERO to do with any of the plot of the show is just pandering.

This is where I really show my age.

I just realized Stamets is the equivalent of Scotty and Culber is McCoy.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

This is where I really show my age.

I just realized Stamets is the equivalent of Scotty and Culber is McCoy.

Yup, I saw one recapper that wasn't in favor of the whole gay thing compare those two to Scotty and McCoy.

[Hal-9000]

I guess I ain't that woke. I see the engineer lean in for a kiss with another guy and I avert my eyes.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

It's totally unnecessary, period. If there was a hetero relationship like that on the show, say between Pike and the Admiral, and they being affectionate and kissing for no real reason, the 'fans' of this show would go berserk.

[Hal-9000]

Yes and not only that, there's so much drama between them that it actually threatens people's well being during the missions. If you want to have a relationship fine, have one. But show them saying hi to each other and getting on with the day. Not all of this - You came back from the dead and now I don't love you wooby wooby woo-woo ..as the ship burns because they're not paying attention.

[Hal-9000]

Not much to hate this week, besides the entire episode. We found out:

Burnham's Mom is an arrogant ass just like Burnham.

Leland is alive and now converted to the walking AI being named Control.

Any new science quandary can be solved by that round-robin scene where three characters make suggestions and find a solution to the problem immediately.

Is fucking and dyslexic Spock.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

"Michael, we did a genetic scan of the Red Angel and it's an EXACT match with you. You're the Red Angel."

"Oops, my bad, it's your mother."

And they use a bunch of techspeak to explain away how they made the mistake. Pretty sure the work EXACT isn't open for interpretation.

Any new science quandary can be solved by that round-robin scene where three characters make suggestions and find a solution to the problem immediately.

Alright guys, quick, round table discussion here, pressing problem, we need it solved ASAP, so GO!

Dark Matter!

Phasing!

Containment!

Some physics law we made up!

Awesome, problem solved! But hey, that took nearly 30 seconds, let's work on our problem solving skills for the next impossible problem in the next episode!

[Teh One Who Knocks]

So, Burnham's mother has seen everything. She's seen what happens to everyone. Seen Michael die a billion times. But she couldn't see the ruse they used to capture her?




And what is it with the stupid camera shots all the time? Here's an idea, let's start with the shot upside down and we'll dramatically spin the camera around 180° and re-frame it correctly for no reason!


Spock: “I like science”

[Hal-9000]

So, Burnham's mother has seen everything. She's seen what happens to everyone. Seen Michael die a billion times. But she couldn't see the ruse they used to capture her?




And what is it with the stupid camera shots all the time? Here's an idea, let's start with the shot upside down and we'll dramatically spin the camera around 180° and re-frame it correctly for no reason!


Spock: “I like science”

Is and Spock dyslexic.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I know of the Borg, but I'm not far enough into TNG to know actual facts about it. The only thing I know (from stuff I have read) is that it's from some far, far away quadrant of the galaxy and it VERY old. But some commenters on some recap sites are theorizing that they are now ret-conning the Borg and that Leland is now the potential start of the Borg, even though it doesn't fit into canon at all in any way shape or form.

[Hal-9000]

I know of the Borg, but I'm not far enough into TNG to know actual facts about it. The only thing I know (from stuff I have read) is that it's from some far, far away quadrant of the galaxy and it VERY old. But some commenters on some recap sites are theorizing that they are now ret-conning the Borg and that Leland is now the potential start of the Borg, even though it doesn't fit into canon at all in any way shape or form.

When Leland was getting his eye piece it was reminiscent of a Borg storyline. They're basically cyborgs made from whatever starting species.

I loved the Borg as an enemy.

Without spoiling anything, imagine a race where you beam right to their ship and walk around without interruption and they ignore you and don't care. Because they don't see you as a threat at all