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    It was stated yesterday by McCabe (acting FBI director) that not charging Clinton angered a bunch of agents. Now that Comey's gone, his replacement might reopen the case.


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    I reckon it won't be too long before this guy could ban guns and they'd still love him

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
    Donald Trump: How many more controversies can his administration take?




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    Instead of quietly asking for Mr Comey's resignation, Mr Trump seemed to choose a course guaranteed to ruffle everyone's feathers, and not for the first time.
    **
    Host of the ABC's Planet America John Barron agrees.

    He says the Supreme Court is the reason Republicans aren't jumping ship and leaving Mr Trump own his own.

    "He doesn't live or die by these daily scandals, because as long as he is their vessel for appointing a Supreme Court that reflects their conservative values they're not too unhappy," Mr Barron said.
    And without at least some Republican members of Congress on board, you can forget about a potential impeachment (until 2018 at least ... more on this later).
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    Back in March last year, eight months before the election, ABC North America correspondent Michael Vincent referred to then-candidate Trump as "Teflon Donald". No scandal would stick.

    In the end, not even being caught on tape boasting about sexually harassing women was enough to stop Mr Trump from winning the White House.

    "I think even that stuff, which would be unthinkable in the last administrations, he seems to be able to get away with it," Mr Thomas-Noone said.
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    And despite the fact that Republicans are pretty happy with him, Mr Trump's overall approval ratings are historically bad.
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    Mr Thomas-Noone notes that while the Trump administration has been short of wins in its early days, it's very good at spinning victories when they do happen.

    "If they're able to pass healthcare ... they'll spin it as a win," he said.

    "They're going to be eager to pass anything as a sign that they can get things done."
    Case in point: despite the Republican healthcare plan being a long way from becoming law, it didn't stop Mr Trump from holding a celebratory press conference at the White House when the bill passed the House with the slimmest of margins.
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    Something to keep in mind
    The "tidal wave of controversies" may actually be helping Mr Trump.

    "Donald Trump is a populist president who is a master manipulator of the media and the news cycle," Mr Barron said.

    "He's very deft if a scandal erupts he can change the narrative by starting another scandal. A bright shiny object that he dangles in front of the media that they can talk about.

    "Behind the scenes there could be a much more important story."

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    Must have been a real slow news day.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Janus View Post
    I reckon it won't be too long before this guy could ban guns and they'd still love him
    Nooooooo. If he tried to do that, everybody would turn on him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
    Donald Trump: How many more controversies can his administration take?


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    The Odds Of Donald Trump Getting Impeached Are Absolutely Skyrocketing


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    Instead of quietly asking for Mr Comey's resignation, Mr Trump seemed to choose a course guaranteed to ruffle everyone's feathers, and not for the first time.
    That's one way to look at it. There's never really a good or bad time to fire somebody. It's always going to be provocative. There's always going to be some kind of blow-back in the aftermath. Truth be told, if the media didn't make such a ridiculous big deal about it, it would have been a quiet thing that flew under the radar. They're only making it a big deal because it's Trump. Just another thing they can spin to try to make him look bad. Honestly, Trump fired a man that, not but a year ago, all liberals and Democrats in this country were calling for this man's head. And not just last year either. Comey was dogged by the Democrats and the liberal media throughout Obama's presidency.

    Host of the ABC's Planet America John Barron agrees.

    He says the Supreme Court is the reason Republicans aren't jumping ship and leaving Mr Trump own his own.

    "He doesn't live or die by these daily scandals, because as long as he is their vessel for appointing a Supreme Court that reflects their conservative values they're not too unhappy," Mr Barron said.
    And without at least some Republican members of Congress on board, you can forget about a potential impeachment (until 2018 at least ... more on this later).
    This is a crock of shit, and here's why: If Trump's impeached and removed from office (assuming he actually did something impeachable, which he hasn't), the next person in the line of succession is the Vice President. Mike Pence becomes President. Pence is way more conservative than Trump is, so even if Trump is impeached, the Republicans still get whoever they want on the Supreme Court, assuming that a spot on the Supreme Court opens up before the midterms. The Republicans aren't going after Trump because at this point in time, there's no evidence that he did anything illegal. Period, end of.

    Back in March last year, eight months before the election, ABC North America correspondent Michael Vincent referred to then-candidate Trump as "Teflon Donald". No scandal would stick.

    In the end, not even being caught on tape boasting about sexually harassing women was enough to stop Mr Trump from winning the White House.

    "I think even that stuff, which would be unthinkable in the last administrations, he seems to be able to get away with it," Mr Thomas-Noone said.
    That's funny. We said the same thing about Obama and Hillary Clinton, especially Hillary since she's been at it since she was the first lady of Arkansas.

    And despite the fact that Republicans are pretty happy with him, Mr Trump's overall approval ratings are historically bad.
    And the polls said that Hillary Clinton would beat Donald Trump for the Presidency by a landslide. Don't believe the hype.

    Mr Thomas-Noone notes that while the Trump administration has been short of wins in its early days, it's very good at spinning victories when they do happen.

    "If they're able to pass healthcare ... they'll spin it as a win," he said.

    "They're going to be eager to pass anything as a sign that they can get things done."
    Case in point: despite the Republican healthcare plan being a long way from becoming law, it didn't stop Mr Trump from holding a celebratory press conference at the White House when the bill passed the House with the slimmest of margins.
    It is a win. Getting the House to team up and pass anything is like pulling teeth. But I understand the criticism. The real win will be when the Senate and the House see eye to eye on it and Trump passes what they send to him into law.

    Something to keep in mind
    The "tidal wave of controversies" may actually be helping Mr Trump.

    "Donald Trump is a populist president who is a master manipulator of the media and the news cycle," Mr Barron said.

    "He's very deft if a scandal erupts he can change the narrative by starting another scandal. A bright shiny object that he dangles in front of the media that they can talk about.

    "Behind the scenes there could be a much more important story."
    Or no story at all. The media's the villain here. I know you don't want to believe that, but it's absolutely true. All these scandals just serve to show how the media is manipulative of the narrative.


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    More fodder for the media to salivate over. And they are. He does it intentionally and has been doing it intentionally since he jumped into the race for the White House.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonGeminiX View Post
    That's one way to look at it. There's never really a good or bad time to fire somebody. It's always going to be provocative. There's always going to be some kind of blow-back in the aftermath. Truth be told, if the media didn't make such a ridiculous big deal about it, it would have been a quiet thing that flew under the radar. They're only making it a big deal because it's Trump. Just another thing they can spin to try to make him look bad. Honestly, Trump fired a man that, not but a year ago, all liberals and Democrats in this country were calling for this man's head. And not just last year either. Comey was dogged by the Democrats and the liberal media throughout Obama's presidency.



    This is a crock of shit, and here's why: If Trump's impeached and removed from office (assuming he actually did something impeachable, which he hasn't), the next person in the line of succession is the Vice President. Mike Pence becomes President. Pence is way more conservative than Trump is, so even if Trump is impeached, the Republicans still get whoever they want on the Supreme Court, assuming that a spot on the Supreme Court opens up before the midterms. The Republicans aren't going after Trump because at this point in time, there's no evidence that he did anything illegal. Period, end of.



    That's funny. We said the same thing about Obama and Hillary Clinton, especially Hillary since she's been at it since she was the first lady of Arkansas.



    And the polls said that Hillary Clinton would beat Donald Trump for the Presidency by a landslide. Don't believe the hype.



    It is a win. Getting the House to team up and pass anything is like pulling teeth. But I understand the criticism. The real win will be when the Senate and the House see eye to eye on it and Trump passes what they send to him into law.



    Or no story at all. The media's the villain here. I know you don't want to believe that, but it's absolutely true. All these scandals just serve to show how the media is manipulative of the narrative.
    Why did I know that if there was a response to this post it would be from you :

    Just a comment further on the dismissal - Trump has made this overly public. A discreet and tactful diplomat would have asked for a resignation and kept it low key. But we all know Trump is certainly no diplomat.

    As for illegal activities..... No evidence as yet! There may never be any evidence but until all investigations are completed we definitely don't know.

    Trump has declared war on the press and made them his enemies so they are certainly not going to be doing him any favours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
    Why did I know that if there was a response to this post it would be from you :

    Just a comment further on the dismissal - Trump has made this overly public. A discreet and tactful diplomat would have asked for a resignation and kept it low key. But we all know Trump is certainly no diplomat.

    As for illegal activities..... No evidence as yet! There may never be any evidence but until all investigations are completed we definitely don't know.

    Trump has declared war on the press and made them his enemies so they are certainly not going to be doing him any favours.
    Be happy I'm talking to you. When I'm not talking, I'm so ridiculously angry that I can't think straight.

    I can't let you run all over the place on this. You're not questioning anything you see in the media. That thing about the Republicans and the Supreme Court is evidence of it. You have no idea what these idiots are saying and you're just running with it. You need to listen to us. These media people are fucking idiots, Monk.

    Trump is the antithesis of tact and diplomacy. That's what we wanted. We're tired of the diplomatic politician, because it's easy to be diplomatic to our face, then turn around and stab us in the back. With Trump, you're getting everything in your face, full force.

    There is no evidence of anything. Even Obama's people stated under oath that there was no evidence of anything. They would know before anyone else.

    Trump has declared war on the press, and rightfully so. They deserve everybody's scorn. They're taking sides. They shouldn't be. They're picking winners and losers. They shouldn't be. They're pushing a point of view instead of just reporting the facts. They shouldn't be. There's no real reporting anymore, it's all just a biased editorial opinion, and you're buying into it hook, line, and sinker. They're feeding you your opinion, they're not giving you all of the facts on all sides of the argument so that you can make up your own mind. And it's not just you, and that's why we Americans on this board are all frustrated. Because other Americans are doing it too. They don't know how things should really be, they're not being taught civics, they're being indoctrinated into a point of view that will only serve to burn our country down.
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    Time will tell....... The rest of the world sees Trump differently than Americans do. The Yanks see him as some sort of messiah and the rest of us see him as some sort of idiot. I wonder who is right and who is wrong???? Time will tell.....

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